35 Dur Specialist Recipe Rotations

[Ishley]

What rotations are you guys using for the new 35 dur specialist recipes?

The rotation I am using now allows for 9 hasty touches (8 with SHII). Additionally it allows for a ToT to be used as a precise touch (or basic touch for the HT w/o SHII). Additionally, it allows for 2 chances a good+ to appear when to use Byregot's Blessing with an Innovation. I am getting pretty good results (11/11 HQ), but I bet there is something better.

[Ishley]

This is the rotation I am using now:

Rotation:
Comfort Zone
If good+, do ToT and use a precise touch if you can later
Inner Quiet
Waste Not II
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Comfort Zone (I missed this the first time I posted it)
Master's Mend
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch, if you got a ToT and didn't use the precise touch, use a basic touch here.
Master's Mend
Steady Hand
Great Strides
Innovation
If good, use Byregot's Blessing otherwise use Ingenuity II
Use Byregot's Blessing (or Ingenuity II if you used it in step 21)
Careful Synthesis II
Careful Synthesis II
Careful Synthesis II


It requires:
458 CP
Comfort Zone
Waste Not II
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Innovation
Ingenuity II
Byregot's Blessing
Tricks of the Trade (not required)

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Unless your craftsmanship is reallyyy high, I think it's necessary to include Ingen2 if you want to complete the item in 3 steps of CS II. So Ingen2 is pretty much not optional. You have to save the CP for it. Because of that, I prefer to include Trick of Trade, and utilize Manipulation instead of WN or WN II for 35 durab items since Manip allows great flexibility on Tricks.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, I see 2 Steady Hand II's within your 8 steps of WN II. So it seems you're sacrificing 10 durab there... The problem of using WN or WN2 for a 35 durab item, is that if you even spend 1 step inside on a Steady Hand II, your durab will hit even number, and you already wasted 5 durab, which is a equivalent of 10 durab for a 35 durab item. Because of this reason, the only way to fully utilize a WN2, would be SH2, WN2, Hastyx5, then followed by CS IIx3. In any case, if you're not using Ingen2, you will need more than 3 CS II to complete the item anyway.

[Ishley]

Yeah IngenII is required, as you can see at the end.
So far though, this has worked well, but as I said I bet there could be something better.

with 7 stakcs of IQ, I was getting 76% HQ chance (meaning 3 Hasty Touches Failed)
with 8 stacks of IQ, I am at 94-100% HQ chance (2 HT fails)
with 9+ stacks it is 100%

[Silverbane]

EDIT: I've hidden this because it looks like I miscalculated.
I developed the roation on the FFXIV Crafting Optimizer but had the level of the recipe set to 60 instead of 60*. As a result, the rotation will apparently not produce enough progress.

My apologies.

As a slight variation, I suggest this:

Comfort Zone
If good+, do ToT and use a precise touch if you can later
Inner Quiet
Waste Not II
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Manipulation
Careful Synthesis II
Comfort Zone
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Manipulation
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Steady Hand
Great Strides
Innovation
If good or Exc, use Byregot's Blessing otherwise use Ingenuity II
Use Byregot's Blessing (or Ingenuity II if you used BB in step 21)
Careful Synthesis II
Careful Synthesis II

Uses 450 436 CP, same number of HTs, gets 594 Progress if Craftsmanship is the minimum (620).

[Ishley]

As a slight variation, I suggest this:

Comfort Zone
If good+, do ToT and use a precise touch if you can later
Inner Quiet
Waste Not II
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Manipulation
Careful Synthesis II
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Manipulation
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Steady Hand
Great Strides
Innovation
If good or Exc, use Byregot's Blessing otherwise use Ingenuity II
Use Byregot's Blessing (or Ingenuity II if you used BB in step 21)
Careful Synthesis II
Careful Synthesis II

Uses 450 CP, same number of HTs, gets 594 Progress if Craftsmanship is the minimum (620).

Thanks I'll try that out!

[Silverbane]

BTW, you can easuily experiment with rotation at The FFXIV Crafting Optimizer. Once you learn to use it, it is fun, and pretty accurate (except for Ingenuity I, though Ingenuity II works fine). And it remembers the stats for each of your crafting classes, and has a lot of built-in recipes (tho not 3.1 recipes yet).

[Ishley]

I just realized I was missing the 2nd comfort zone from my post before XD

[Ishley]

BTW, you can easuily experiment with rotation at The FFXIV Crafting Optimizer. Once you learn to use it, it is fun, and pretty accurate (except for Ingenuity I, though Ingenuity II works fine). And it remembers the stats for each of your crafting classes, and has a lot of built-in recipes (tho not 3.1 recipes yet).

yeah I downloaded the source code and was going to add the new recipes and run it on my computer. Adding the new recipes is fine, (just some json), but I don't know how to run it as a web site on my windows box.

[Silverbane]

The problem of using WN or WN2 for a 35 durab item, is that if you even spend 1 step inside on a Steady Hand II, your durab will hit even number, and you already wasted 5 durab, which is a equivalent of 10 durab for a 35 durab item. Because of this reason, the only way to fully utilize a WN2, would be SH2, WN2, Hastyx5, then followed by CS IIx3.

Caimie, that must be an editting error on your part, you have an unbuffed Hasty in there. Plus that only works if the Durability is over 40 at the start.

That said, Ishley's rotation (and my minor tweak of it) are using WN2 to save 30 Durability at the cost of 98 CP and a rigid rotation. That's not too bad, compared to Manip (88 CP) and Masters Mend (92 CP), each of which would have to be placed inside the SH2 effect in a 35 Dur rotation.