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  1. #11
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    I think with Silverbane's change, I can now have a free precise touch (or if I got unlucky, use basic touch instead of the last hasty touch)
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    My rotation is probably not suitable for you, but more suitable for myself...

    Well, of course, one can't go up to IQ12, but it just means I can touch 11 times.

    Due to extensive use of Manip, I leave myself a lot of room in the rotation for Trick of Trades, so it's not uncommon that I can take 2 Tricks. If I cannot, then I'll just modify my rotation to substitute my 3rd Manip with a WN to save that 32 CP, and touch 1 or 2 times less. No big deal.

    Yeah, unfortunately, my manual crafting rotation for this item is totally base on intuition on the spot, so it's not as easily picked up as Silverbane's. I also have a base CP of 422 so my starting CP is actually 470. I use Baked Onion Soup to increase craftsmanship so that I can use 1x naked CS II.

    It's just my old habit of crafting... grabbing all the available CP along the way, then keep modifying the rotation...
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 11-13-2015 at 01:31 PM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Caimie, that must be an editting error on your part, you have an unbuffed Hasty in there. Plus that only works if the Durability is over 40 at the start.

    That said, Ishley's rotation (and my minor tweak of it) are using WN2 to save 30 Durability at the cost of 98 CP and a rigid rotation. That's not too bad, compared to Manip (88 CP) and Masters Mend (92 CP), each of which would have to be placed inside the SH2 effect in a 35 Dur rotation.
    Ah right, that's my error!!! Indeed can't have 5x hasty there! LOL!

    And yeah, the good thing about using WN2 is that with our current CP pool, it fits quite well together with 2x Manip without the need of taking Tricks.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    As a slight variation, I suggest this:

    Comfort Zone
    If good+, do ToT and use a precise touch if you can later
    Inner Quiet
    Waste Not II
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Manipulation
    Careful Synthesis II
    Comfort Zone
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Manipulation
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Steady Hand
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    If good or Exc, use Byregot's Blessing otherwise use Ingenuity II
    Use Byregot's Blessing (or Ingenuity II if you used BB in step 21)
    Careful Synthesis II
    Careful Synthesis II

    Uses 450 436 CP, same number of HTs, gets 594 Progress if Craftsmanship is the minimum (620).
    I like this rotation. It's very streamlined, easy to follow, and utilizes very few CP.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    My rotation is probably not suitable for you, but more suitable for myself...

    Well, of course, one can't go up to IQ12, but it just means I can touch 11 times.

    Due to extensive use of Manip, I leave myself a lot of room in the rotation for Trick of Trades, so it's not uncommon that I can take 2 Tricks. If I cannot, then I'll just modify my rotation to substitute my 3rd Manip with a WN to save that 32 CP, and touch 1 or 2 times less. No big deal.

    Yeah, unfortunately, my manual crafting rotation for this item is totally base on intuition on the spot, so it's not as easily picked up as Silverbane's. I also have a base CP of 422 so my starting CP is actually 470. I use Baked Potato Soup to increase craftsmanship so that I can use 1x naked CS II.

    It's just my old habit of crafting... grabbing all the available CP along the way, then keep modifying the rotation...

    I miss senpai! * pushes senpai back into the shadow * the best kept secret - Master Caimie
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    Last edited by Takara528; 11-12-2015 at 05:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    As a slight variation, I suggest this:

    Comfort Zone
    If good+, do ToT and use a precise touch if you can later
    Inner Quiet
    Waste Not II
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Manipulation
    Careful Synthesis II
    Comfort Zone
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Manipulation
    Hasty Touch
    Hasty Touch
    Steady Hand
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    If good or Exc, use Byregot's Blessing otherwise use Ingenuity II
    Use Byregot's Blessing (or Ingenuity II if you used BB in step 21)
    Careful Synthesis II
    Careful Synthesis II

    Uses 450 436 CP, same number of HTs, gets 594 Progress if Craftsmanship is the minimum (620).
    I think this is actually 442 CP. But still a very good improvement and I will be using this for now! Thank you again!
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    Last edited by Ishley; 11-12-2015 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    My rotation is probably not suitable for you, but more suitable for myself...

    Well, of course, one can't go up to IQ12, but it just means I can touch 11 times.

    Due to extensive use of Manip, I leave myself a lot of room in the rotation for Trick of Trades, so it's not uncommon that I can take 2 Tricks. If I cannot, then I'll just modify my rotation to substitute my 3rd Manip with a WN to save that 32 CP, and touch 1 or 2 times less. No big deal.
    ....
    If I can figure out where I can safely use ToT and where I can't, I will try this out too. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    As a slight variation, I suggest this:

    I have 838 Craftmanship (using baked onion soup) wich is welllll above the 620 mininum u posted and this rotation ended up in a fail due to the last CS2 not being enough to finish. Can you please post your required stats for this? The requirements seem off.

    CS2 under IG2 = 217
    CS2 without IG2 = 119
    217*2 + 119 = 553 progress. (not getting 594 as you posted)
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 11-13-2015 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quick post before I got to work, Could try:

    CZ
    IQ
    WN2
    SH2
    HT
    HT
    HT
    HT
    HT
    Manipulation
    HT (unbuffed )
    CZ
    SH2
    HT
    HT
    Manipulaton
    HT
    SH
    GS
    INNOV
    INGEN2
    BB
    CS2
    CS2
    CS2

    I bet there is something we can do to get that HT buffed if we change the order, but its not jumping out to me yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    I have 838 Craftmanship (using baked onion soup) wich is welllll above the 620 mininum u posted and this rotation ended up in a fail due to the last CS2 not being enough to finish. Can you please post your required stats for this? The requirements seem off.

    CS2 under IG2 = 217
    CS2 without IG2 = 119
    217*2 + 119 = 553 progress. (not getting 594 as you posted)
    It looks like I miscalculated. I developed the roation on the FFXIV Crafting Optimizer but had the level of the recipe set to 60 instead of 60*. As a result, the rotation will apparently not produce enough progress.

    My apologies.
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