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  1. #41
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    Ishley's Avatar
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    Ishley Rahl
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    I tried Fince's rotation in the simulator for the 60* recipes. I had to get to 899 Craftsmanship before it would not fail (with food).
    Here are the results from the sim:

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  2. #42
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ishley View Post
    I tried Fince's rotation in the simulator for the 60* recipes. I had to get to 899 Craftsmanship before it would not fail (with food).
    Here are the results from the sim:
    Hmm, that doesnt make sense...
    Nobody can reach 899 craft without overmelding like no tomorrow and use strong craftsmanship food. It's simply not practical.

    You should only need 849 craft to finish the item in 3 strokes:
    1x CS II alone (121 progress)
    2x CS II on Ingen2 (221 progress)

    Also, although pushing 5 touches in a row can save SH II's (durab down to 5), I'd rather not do that. I prefer to only deplete durab down to 15 before renewing Manip. This way, I can always do a Precise Touch if the condition is Good or Excellent. But the good thing about your rotation is that you can actually macro it. Because it seems like you dont' plan to take any Trick of Trade at all.
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  3. #43
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    Ishley's Avatar
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    Ishley Rahl
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    yeah something is different, I changed the level from 170 to 160 and it is now closer, but still off a bit from the actual game.

    {
    "baseLevel": 60,
    "difficulty": 558,
    "durability": 35,
    "level": 160,
    "maxQuality": 8377,
    "name": {
    "de": "Cloud Cloth",
    "en": "Cloud Cloth",
    "fr": "Cloud Cloth",
    "ja": "Cloud Cloth"
    },
    "stars": 1
    }
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  4. #44
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    Nagoto Netherfrost
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ishley View Post
    yeah I downloaded the source code and was going to add the new recipes and run it on my computer. Adding the new recipes is fine, (just some json), but I don't know how to run it as a web site on my windows box.
    Is their a guide somewhere on how to do this? =x I'm not very tech savvy.
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  5. #45
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    Okay so I was just doing a simple
    MaMa
    CZ
    FS till stacks run out (take ToT)
    Inno
    SH2
    WN
    RS
    HTx3
    CZ
    Manip
    SH2
    HTx3
    Manip
    HT
    SH2
    HTx2
    GS
    BB

    With 437 CP I can use 3 BT/PT before taking any ToT. The fact that these items are not needed in HQ to HQ the il185 gear kind of killed my efforts to work on a rotation for these. They do appear to get more good/ex procs then previous recipes as well. You can easily drop in ingen/inno in the end, but I haven't bothered.

    Slightly altered to include ingen and inno. Still leaves 10 CP with 0 ToT. This is also done using lvl60 2* recipe stats and ramie thread as the only HQ ingredient used. HQ cloud cotton/pterodactyls/etc. are not needed.


    I haven't tested what is better, 2 more bt/pt or ingen 2. But, I will always drop the innovation and use a PT if a good/ex procs.
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    Last edited by Rath; 11-16-2015 at 09:55 AM.

  6. #46
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    I've gone ahead and simplified my approach and created a dumb macro since HQing all of these isn't critical. You can see my macro with food below. This requires 444 CP and approximately 800 Craftsmanship (with Food) You should be able to miss one FS with 800 craftsmanship and two with 850 craftsmanship. Again this is just a dumb macro with HQ Onion Soup to crunch through crafting these quickly. Note I prefer 4 second wait in macros like this incase the server is being cranky... but 3 seconds is sufficient. Also NOTE this is super inefficient, but is probably the best I can do without swapping skills (which I personally HATE doing).


    Food 40 1* Start:
    /ac "Maker's Mark" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Flawless Synthesis" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Flawless Synthesis" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Flawless Synthesis" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Flawless Synthesis" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Flawless Synthesis" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Flawless Synthesis" <me> <wait.4>
    /action "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Master's Mend" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>

    Food 40 1* End:
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Master's Mend" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Master's Mend" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.4>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.4>
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 11-17-2015 at 07:19 AM.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagoto View Post
    Is their a guide somewhere on how to do this? =x I'm not very tech savvy.
    I think they are about to update the sim with the new recipes. (based on the new source code I got)
    But this works for me (if you are on Windows):

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  8. #48
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    Ishley Rahl
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    Those steps I posted are way easier than the first time I got it working. I hope it helps someone at least.

    Tip: Download the images or view them in another tab, so that they are bigger and easier to read.
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  9. #49
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    Roni Beoulve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishley View Post
    Here are the simulation results for my original idea, although it doesn't really include any ToT or anything. (If I add the ToT will it work?)

    Thank you so much for your rotation guide, although I have less CP than you, I could figure out a more lean rotation, this is how it ended:

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  10. #50
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    Katchoo Choovanski
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    You should swap your WN2 SH2. That way if you can proc a ToT after the first SH2 and it should not make a difference no?
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