3.1 MSQ Reaction [SPOILERS]

[Rocl]

Rhalgr take you and your great beyond!

(The 1.0 Gridania opening is immediately what I thought of when Yda mentioned Rhalgr, lol)

[Emmanellain]

I noticed that as well, but I think the scene was more about how he was overlooking his own son, who was standing right there.

Not to mention when Haurchefant said he would join the WoL to save Aymeric his father was heavily against it. However when Artoriel says he'll enter the vault his dad all but nods. Then when he gets out his dad gets all mushy with Aymeric and barely look his way, yeaaah ouchie.

[Fevelle]

THAT WHITE MAGE PLAINSFOLK IS NOW MY OFFICIAL IN-GAME RIVAL. Mumushu can't wait to pull her hair and slap that ironic little face of hers ù=ú

[CyrilLucifer]

Rewatching some of the cutscenes, I can't help but feel something is up with the Ascian, or the situation with the Ascian, the Warriors of Darkness "killed" in the vision you see via the Echo. The scene seems intentionally more ambiguous than normal, given Echo-scenes in 2.X and 3.0 tend to be relatively blatant and revealing. The journal doesn't help either, just saying it appears they fought him like you fought Lahabrea.

I think they're going to revisit that in the future.

[myahele]

Yeah, she seems very focused and serious when she was helping the "masks" more so than I've seen her in ARR.

I think she's Ala Mhigan, as well. It's certainly possible she might be half since Arenvald (in the rwaking sands) is half Ala Mhigan-Garlean and has the echo

[Mykaelus]

3.1 referenced a lot of the other games, but in particular FFV with Krile, FFIII with the Warriors of Darkness, and FF1 with the Crystal Eye. And one biiiiiig theme in all three of those games was people who saved the world being forgotten.

In FF1 it happens when you defeat Chaos' time loop paradox and create an alternate reality where you never existed. In FFIII it happens when the Dark Warriors defeat the Light in a Pyrrhic victory and are forgotten by the main society on the floating continent. In FFV it happens TWICE, once when the legendary twelve defeat Enuo, and again when the Dawn Warriors return to their own world after defeating Exdeath.

So in FFXIV, we have the original Warriors of Light, whose names and faces have been forgotten after the Calamity and Louisoux's time nonsense, only to be replaced by the new Warriors of Light.

FFIII, which is the only one that directly names the previous heroes as "Dark Warriors," they saved the world from being consumed by Light, after a technologically advanced civilization harnessed too much of it.

Well, Light in FFXIV would functionally be aether. And what have we been doing? Killing Primals left and right, releasing their aether. Turning on Allagan machines that process and/or collect aether. Releasing enormous amounts of aether to kill Ascians and/or dragons. Not to menion Garlemald and all their shenanigans.

What if all the good we're doing is creating an imbalance of Light, and the Warriors of Darkness--the forgotten heroes of the past--are here to set things straight?

[Eul]

This is somehow makes me always "meh" when my character doesn't have any moment but just standing and sheathe weapon to WoD. It's gonna be awesome if our character have battle cutscene too

[Fenral]

What if all the good we're doing is creating an imbalance of Light, and the Warriors of Darkness--the forgotten heroes of the past--are here to set things straight?

At multiple times and in multiple ways, our "end goal" is stated to be a total and decisive victory for the Light. There was, just once, the tiniest bit of a hint that this is, in fact, a terrible idea, but it's too soon to say if that hint will actually lead to anything (if you happen to have anything to add, use that thread, so we can keep this one in 3.1 land).

[CyrilLucifer]

This is somehow makes me always "meh" when my character doesn't have any moment but just standing and sheathe weapon to WoD. It's gonna be awesome if our character have battle cutscene too

Our battle cutscenes aren't cutscenes, it's when we participate ourselves. So, we had our "cutscene" in the last quest instance.

But to be honest, the real reason is because there are so many jobs that they'd have to render the scenes differently if we wanted an actual fight and not something like using a generic Blade of Light. A Scholar bopping a dragon over the head with a book and parrying with it a moment later, then forcing him into submission would be amusing, but not realistically viable.

Edit: I agree with Fenral as well. I don't think a total decisive victory for light is best for anyone. Duality tends to be a major theme in Final Fantasy and you can't have duality with only one side.

[Mykaelus]

Thanks Fenral, I do have some other thoughts so I will post there!