I don't want to tank dungeons anymore...

[PizzaRolls]

if they pull it let them be the ones to kill it offer no aid they pull it they kill it plain as that

[Atoli]

"I'm not forcing my views on others, but I am in the majority, and that means I'm always right." You're so blind to your own contradictions you basically negated your entire stance.
It is impossible to confirm that everyone in the party wants what you want when nobody communicates. Yes, I keep bringing that up, because so long as you cannot prove that the majority always tacitly desires big pulls, anything else you try to say on the matter is pointless and entirely off-topic. And frankly, nobody cares what happens between your thighs when the tank pulls big.

I'll just leave the part of my last post here that you obviously skipped over:

Inb4 someone asks "But how do you know 2 others agree with you?":
I know my own stance on the topic. When one dps says "I'm not gonna attack unless you pull more than 2 monsters, tank" and the other is already off pulling the other monsters, I can safely assume 3 of us want bigger pulls.

Same when BOTH run off to grab more monsters.

Also, there is no "right" or "wrong" about big vs. small pulls and I never argued that either. It's about what people enjoy or don't enjoy (if we stay in the boundaries of what is actually possible). Oh, and btw, enjoyment is something experienced in your HEAD, so I'm not gonna go down to your appearent level

[Azazua_azura]

I'll leave this here

Through out human history, it has been said just because something is the majority way of thinking does not make it right.
If 3 players want the tank to pull more mobs, but the tank is fresh and isn't sure/confident, or laclks skill/gear to do so. Majority takes a back seat.

DF is meant to be all inclusive, if you want excluisionary mindsets PF is there for it.

Why does the NA community treat DF like PF? And PF like DF?

You guys want inclusive parties finder groups but exclusive Duty finder groups. Sorry but majority wishes takes a back seat if someone can't handle it. It is pathetic, to assume just because your a majority, you enforce your way to the point of bullying. Like I stated before. I was a fresh tank in the NA community, who accepts advice, tips, I don't do the you pull you tank. And Was harrassed for being new. Simply because I was a year late.

I think yall need to take a step back and actually READ what your saying, because on both side it comes off as bullying.

[Fourbestintoner]

I've been tanking for years now and honestly, I hate people like Evangela or Fourbestintoner. You have no idea what a serious mess it is for a tank to get the aggro back from your pulls and the stress it is for a tank to reposition the mobs for you to avoid easily any AOE...

Good thing you won't need to fight for aggro because I will shadewalker you.
Re-positioning take 2 seconds. When you see ninjas preparing their suiton it means it is time to pull, not wait 15 seconds.

[SlackiePie]

It's like having a team full of good runners but the quarterback is a tortoise who enjoy drinking a cup of goddamn tea before giving you the ball. It's annoying.

No it's not like that. OP has already explained that he doesn't wait between pulls and keeps a steady pace. His post is directed toward players who don't adhere to their role in the group and have no patience for a normally paced run.

[Atoli]

Sorry but majority wishes takes a back seat if someone can't handle it.

I am not squishy at all. I can manage myself quite good

I am not a bad tank, in fact, I usually don't have issue with more bobs at once. I like taking time and not having a cluster hell in front of me. Why people needs to always be super fast with everythings and not actually enjoy the game?

This is not about someone who can't handle it. It's about someone who can handle it but chooses not to, because he'd rather take his sweet time.

[Fenral]

snippers

I didn't feel the need to quote that part, because one, you agreed ninja pulling was bad, and two, you were casting yourself as the majority when nobody communicated. Hate to break it to you, but both the troll behavior and rude demand-making you describe are forms of communication. So you still can't prove yourself to be in the majority without it.

[Kaitlen]

I love tanking and I'll tank anything, it doesn't bother me except if I have to repeat the same dungeon back to back. (Note: I took a break from the game and never had the displeasure of running the latest expert dungeons) However, pre-3.0, I didn't mind those dungeons for expert.

Well, point is, the only thing that will irritate me are those people that pull ahead of me. I probably won't quit the dungeon, but I'm not going to actively try to save their ass if I couldn't put down some hate first before DPS starts going to town on the mobs. That said, I've had this happen maybe three times where it got out of control.

I enjoy the tank insta-queues and I don't take it for granted. I know from experience while playing non-tank jobs that [some] tanks can be little bitches. Yes, I said little bitches... :O

Oh...and: You spank it, you tank it. (unless of course, you face pulled on accident. (^-^)/

[MicahZerrshia]

elite vs casuals

I always feel people don't really know what elite means.

An elitist is someone who is aristocratic or a snob. And anyone can really fall into this category. But saying that someone who is well geared, can handle a lot and doesn't want to spend twice the time in a dungeon than is really necessary is an elitist is kindda stretching it.

Usually I find the true elitist is the person in a dungeon who doesn't really want to learn their job or is too lazy to perform their job and wants to watch Netflix as they tap a couple buttons, because they had a long day at work or school. Doesn't want to really work at any content and just wants to faceroll or get carried thru things, cause you know its "just a game" and they think their definition of fun is the exact same as everyone else. Or they feel their real life is more important than anyone else's therefore making the way they want to spend their little time in game more important than anyone else's.

- As well as the people who will not take the time to teach or guide someone new, or be understanding if you are trying your best

If you think that the way you play is the only way to play and everyone else in your party...or worse....that the devs need to bow to your every whim

YOU are the elitist, whether you spend an hour a week in game or 100

[Shai]

No it's not like that. OP has already explained that he doesn't wait between pulls and keeps a steady pace. His post is directed toward players who don't adhere to their role in the group and have no patience for a normally paced run.

Strange. I never saw "Puller" role - just Tank, Healer, DPS.

I always feel people don't really know what elite means.

An elitist is someone who is aristocratic or a snob. And anyone can really fall into this category.

That's funny. I feel like you don't know what elite means, only I'm using a dictionary to define it.