I don't want to tank dungeons anymore...

[Razem5791]

Tank is supposed to be the first to enter but also the last to leave the battle. Like I said, this is the definition of the warrior in FF11's manual. And it's true. Only tanks know perfectly what does that mean and most importantly what does that imply : if something goes wrong, we are supposed to take the blame since we give the pace of the run. Mobs are not supposed to go after others since it's our job to make sure it never happens. Thats the only way for everyone to enjoy the game at its fullest. Most of players will definately feel reassured when they have a good healer but also a tank who doesnt hesitate but also when the tank knows to avoid risks when it is necessary. And not act as a dictator. But that's also a reason for the other to respect the tank's job too... It's symbiosis and harmony to show some respect...

[Evangela]

yeah, tank should be the first to enter the battlefield. so they should do it without having people telling them to do their job.

[Jeycht]

I often tank in dungeon (faster to Q) and rarely play with that kind of players. (Well I often "run" it depend the team comp/gear but yet)
Yet I see a lot of topics complaining about that issue. Is that a US server problem ? Idk that's a real question.

[Lan_Mantear]

"Like omg yay, Neverreap. Boy I can't wait to take this dungeon as slow as possible so I can savour and enjoy every single moment of this fantastic place!" Said no players ever!

I am definitely going to say this the next time I get Neverreap. I wonder how many people will leave right after.

[Seryl199]

Sorry but as a tank it is your job to keep up the pace, which most people prefer swift. If you don't understand this concept, you shouldn't be a tank. If you want to take it slow and easy, consider the gear the rest of your group is wearing. If they can handle big pulls, consider doing so. If they are under geared, then take it slow. It's your job, and quite honestly nothing more annoying than a slow tank.

I'm a healer main, and a far better healer than I am a tank. I learned to tank speed runs on PLD at level 50, but I still take it easy in HW leveling content. I very rarely tank, so I'm slow to learn dungeons from the tank perspective. I tank one pack at a time, go straight from one pack to the next, and rotate my strongest CD's to accommodate the healer, especially when they DPS. If they don't DPS, I'm on the lookout for opportunities to Sword Oath.

I've been on the healing side of countless tanks, so I feel confident in saying I'm a good tank. I'm not great, I'm far from the best, but I'm good enough to get it done and done right. If the group wants a fast run and asks for it, I'll try it for science, even if I'm not comfortable myself. In fact, I'd rather fail a messy pull with courteous players than clean up another player's pull and clear it with rude players.

I tank like I drive my car, safe, within the limits, and to the best of my abilities. I'm not a mind reader, I'm not aware of when other players are pressed for time and wanting to run dungeons at a faster pace than myself. All it takes is communication to let me know that. Don't belittle me, don't pull ahead of me, quite honestly there is nothing more annoying than that, especially when I'm on a role that I don't play frequently and am not entirely confident in.

[Sicno]

except it's not a ToS violation, confirmed by a GM.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

As with many other situations in this game, the criteria seems to change a lot from GM to GM.

By the way, all you're saying encourages exactly what the OP was trying to get at: That some of us don't want to tank anymore because of these kind of attitudes. This isn't a job, we don't NEED to tank, we do it for enjoyment but if we no longer enjoy it we won't do it anymore. We sure have an influx of new tanks because of DRK and how good WARs are now, but let's see how many stick to it in the long term and don't get back to rolling their face on the keyboard as their dps of choice.

[SonKevin]

Buttz

Unrelated, but I think you need to alter your quote slightly in your signature.

[Evangela]

Well if slow tanks don't want to tank anymore, it's ok to just don't do it.

then we can have only fast tanks.

[Fyce]

Well if slow tanks don't want to tank anymore, it's ok to just don't do it.

then we can have only fast tanks.

And thus, super long queues.

There you go, fixed now.
Shiny as new.

[Sicno]

Unrelated, but I think you need to alter your quote slightly in your signature.

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%2810-30-2013 at 1:14:22

Well if slow tanks don't want to tank anymore, it's ok to just don't do it.

then we can have only fast tanks.

Then you have only fast tanks and slow queues