We're suffocating on inventory space - how much of a priority is it to fix it?

[Gyson]

I know this has been mentioned many times, but seriously we are suffocating on inventory space and as patch and patch come by it'll only get worse.

I know there are answers to this already that it's something they are working on but server space is a limiting factor.

All I want to ask is this: exactly how much is SE prioritising a fix to this problem?

Are we only going to see an answer 3 patches away? Or is something going to be done really soon?

By limiting inventory space and selling "optional" retainers, SE has managed to find a way to make players pay a monthly subscription fee of up to $30 a month.

How much of a priority do you honestly believe it is to "fix" that "problem"?

I suspect their biggest concern in this department is how to rent even more retainers without coming across like complete hypocrites.

Sorry, I love this game, but the limited inventory excuses combined with the claims of database problems that seem to magically disappear for an extra $2 a month are just the biggest pile of B.S. :/

[Lemuria]

Inventary is ridiculously small taking in to account that we can have all those diferent classes.

Other games also offer ways to get more inventory space that don't require paying a monthly cash micro-sub for them. In WoW it's bigger bags in your inventory and bank + void storage

Oh really? Well, how about we talk about just that.

In WoW, you can get a nice tidy 110 inventory spaces if you go crazy with the bags and have gold coming out of your ears. This game offers you 750 inventory slots without paying a single dime! Skeptical? Let's look at the facts, shall we?

You start with 100 standard inventory slots by default. You have, by extension, 300 inventory slots for your armory. That's 400 slots already. Now, retainers offer a tidy sum of 175 slots each. You can have two retainers without paying extra. That's 350 inventory slots. Now, who here can do elementary math? Three hundred and fifty plus four hundred. You at the front, yes you. That's right. 750 inventory slots! Have a piece of candy.

That's before I even mention buying even a single extra retainer. Oh, and for obvious reasons I'm not counting the soul crystals or key items either. Do you see why I said that they're extremely generous already? I challenge you to name even one game which comes close to that. It doesn't exist anywhere.

Now, as I mentioned in the post that both of you quoted, that doesn't mean I don't have inventory troubles. I'm a crafter, so I'm always going to have inventory troubles. However, the REASON we have trouble is because we're hoarders by nature. Go on, you're free to admit it, we're all big girls and boys here. No one is judging you, least of all me. Heck, I'll freely admit I'm one of the worst hoarders of them all, because I just never know when I'll need that red landtrap leaf, or that rock salt for a quick synthesis.

Would more inventory be nice? Hell yes. Am I going to say we're, quote, "suffocating on inventory space"? Hell no. It helps to at least have some sense of perspective here. We have these troubles because we hoard, and we hoard because we can. More inventory space wouldn't solve that issue, it would just give us more chances to hoard. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it's food for thought at least.

All I'm asking is for people to think before they post, instead of playing the victim. If this was a blame game, I'd be the first on the rack.

[Blood-Aki]

By limiting inventory space and selling "optional" retainers, SE has managed to find a way to make players pay a monthly subscription fee of up to $30 a month.

How much of a priority do you honestly believe it is to "fix" that "problem"?

I suspect their biggest concern in this department is how to rent even more retainers without coming across like complete hypocrites.

Sorry, I love this game, but the limited inventory excuses combined with the claims of database problems that seem to magically disappear for an extra $2 a month are just the biggest pile of B.S. :/

And to add on this this what are they going to do if everyone suddently bought a retainer? i can bet you there will be "no problems" if that happen, Money fixes everything.

I'v never bought that sad excuse, This is only going to get worse with future patches, They will HAVE to do something by then.

[Gyson]

That's before I even mention buying even a single extra retainer. Oh, and for obvious reasons I'm not counting the soul crystals or key items either. Do you see why I said that they're extremely generous already? I challenge you to name even one game which comes close to that. It doesn't exist anywhere.

All I'm asking is for people to think before they post, instead of playing the victim. If this was a blame game, I'd be the first on the rack.

Well, I'm not going to patch up, log in and count it, but between the dedicated slots available for crafting items, the ability to stack items up to 250 (unless they've increased it again - wait, I checked, you can boost it to stack to 1500 per stack), the ability to belong to multiple guilds and thus have your own guild bank, bag space, etc, I'm going to guess Guild Wars 2 allows you to have more storage space than FFXIV. Even more storage can be gained by spending gems, which can be purchased using in-game gold, and it's a one-time fee rather than the additional rental charge every month that FFXIV uses.

Having said that, I'm willing to bet most MMOs provide more storage space, for the simple fact that most games allow you to mail items between alternate characters. And once you start factoring in easy mule transfers in other MMOs, FFXIV's free storage options start to look pretty pathetic. And we're not even touching on MMOs that have superior solutions to vanity item storage.

Hey, all I ask is for people to think before they post.

[CyrilLucifer]

When FFXI, a game held back by PS2 limitations and one that keeps character server data that has existed since 2002, which means you can't use the "XIV has more players" excuse, can have more than 700 inventory slots per character, I find it extremely hard to believe that XIV is limited by their "servers."

Now, admittedly, the last 200 added inventory did finally start adding to load times, but unlike XIV, you can view all of your inventory data at any given time. XIV doesn't suffer from that problem.

[Avidria]

Oh really? Well, how about we talk about just that.

In WoW, you can get a nice tidy 110 inventory spaces if you go crazy with the bags and have gold coming out of your ears. This game offers you 750 inventory slots without paying a single dime! Skeptical? Let's look at the facts, shall we?

You start with 100 standard inventory slots by default. You have, by extension, 300 inventory slots for your armory. That's 400 slots already. Now, retainers offer a tidy sum of 175 slots each. You can have two retainers without paying extra. That's 350 inventory slots. Now, who here can do elementary math? Three hundred and fifty plus four hundred. You at the front, yes you. That's right. 750 inventory slots! Have a piece of candy.

That's before I even mention buying even a single extra retainer. Oh, and for obvious reasons I'm not counting the soul crystals or key items either. Do you see why I said that they're extremely generous already? I challenge you to name even one game which comes close to that. It doesn't exist anywhere.

Now, as I mentioned in the post that both of you quoted, that doesn't mean I don't have inventory troubles. I'm a crafter, so I'm always going to have inventory troubles. However, the REASON we have trouble is because we're hoarders by nature. Go on, you're free to admit it, we're all big girls and boys here. No one is judging you, least of all me. Heck, I'll freely admit I'm one of the worst hoarders of them all, because I just never know when I'll need that red landtrap leaf, or that rock salt for a quick synthesis.

Would more inventory be nice? Hell yes. Am I going to say we're, quote, "suffocating on inventory space"? Hell no. It helps to at least have some sense of perspective here. We have these troubles because we hoard, and we hoard because we can. More inventory space wouldn't solve that issue, it would just give us more chances to hoard. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it's food for thought at least.

All I'm asking is for people to think before they post, instead of playing the victim. If this was a blame game, I'd be the first on the rack.

The current max bag size in WoW is 30 slots. You can have 4 on your person and 7 in your bank, which adds up to 330 slots, plus the 44 from the default bank and inventory slots that can't be changed - so 374 on one character.

But you can have 11 characters per server, so if you really go nuts and primarily play one character that's a max of 4114 slots total at no additional cash cost. Yes, those bags are absurdly expensive in gold and materials, but that's not my point - my point is that they are available in game, not in the cash shop. You can also freely mail gold and items between alts. I had 5-6 characters that I played actively and 5 or so more that I played on and off, plus 3 or so that were almost exclusively used for storage. I had their inventories, banks, guild banks (I had 2 of my own guilds), and mailboxes at my disposal. Each character also has access to 80 more slots through void storage.

Granted the original, base inventory space for WoW is kind of terrible - 16 slots of inventory space is next to useless if you play for any length of time. But they gave a way to get more, and they kept adding more as the game aged.

And I have no qualms with admitting that I am a hoarder in games. I collect things. My druid in WoW, who I played for ~10 years, has a completely full bank, full void storage, and a mostly full inventory...full of items and gear sets and random stuff, a fair amount of which doesn't exist or isn't available anymore. But that's beside the point, too.

My issue is primarily with the fact that you need to spend cash to get more space in this game. There are dozens of solutions available, but that's all we have right now.

[Vasala]

Even World of Warcraft is getting a wardrobe UI that stores gear appearance that you have gotten from quests, dungeons, etc in Legion so would really hope that the Final Fantasy staff would seriously look at giving us a similar feature to help with our storage issues.

[RiceisNice]

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It's all relative. WoW starts you with 16 slots, and easily 108 slots without having to splurge gold. You're also comparing those 750 slots (which includes retainers. IE, banks) but do not include WoW's banking? That's extremely bias toward comparing inventory slots.

WoW also does not have two versions of nearly every item (NQ/HQ), tackle baits for fishing, and token currencies that take up a bag slot. Their inventory is also a bit optimized that it's certianly not a hell hole for having a cluttered inventory, specifically that you can't craft anything period if you have no slot, even if you're crafting an item that can be stacked onto an existing slot, and items that can't be picked up disappear into FFXIV's equivalent of The Twisting Nether. with no Postmaster to assist you.

I mean ealistically speaking, the inventory issue at point blank isn't that bad, but there's so many other nonsensical things that surround the function of an inventory drives me nuts. But by no means is our inventory circumstances any better than what's currently existing, numerically (because again, it's sort of a relative thing with the game it's in) or functionally.

[Brill_]

The funny thing about inventory space is that no matter how much of it you have, people will always want more. FFXIV is incredibly generous with inventory space compared to many games that I've played. In FFXI, you didn't have an armory chest. All of your gear, for all of your jobs, was in your gobbie bag or not at all. That bag could be upgraded to a maximum of 80 spaces! Now we not only have a 100 space inventory, but an armory chest with 25 slots per item! The amount of inventory space we have is insanely generous already.

In FFXI, most people had alts and mailed stuff to them to deal with inventory problems. If they would let us do the same in FFXIV, this problem would be solved.

[Eye_Gore]

This game offers you 750 inventory slots without paying a single dime![/B] Skeptical? Let's look at the facts, shall we?

The fact is they keep adding items with nowhere for us to put them unless we pay more money, and thats the truth.