Seriously?

[kazeandi]

Where are all of you super pro hardcore players? Never seen you in game.

People here sure try to look like god's gift to FFXIV.

[Archaell]

Where are all of you super pro hardcore players? Never seen you in game.

People here sure try to look like god's gift to FFXIV.

I am not sure that FFXIV is appealing to such a demografic. So they are probably in other games?

The truth is we all suck so much that we need everyone to do their part due to the simple fact that we can't carry them.

[TiaHariberux3]

Where are all of you super pro hardcore players? Never seen you in game.

People here sure try to look like god's gift to FFXIV.

Do u even df bro. Even casuals don't need a nerf for 51-59 dungeons you can easily tank all of those dungeons with pre hw gear. Nerfs dont help people they just have it harder later in the game.

[Seryl199]

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

When will players learn? Should they not have grasped the fundamentals by the time they've reached Garuda NM? They had to have cleared Ifrit and Titan, so the players have experienced pass/fail DPS checks, raidwide damage, dodging special AoE's, basic knowledge that they should have for any boss. The only new concept introduced in that fight is the destructible pillars, which is nothing more than a DPS check with a side of positional awareness. That's the only thing the fight teaches you, positioning to avoid damage to the pillars, positioning to AoE plumes without getting LoS'd, positioning to dodge Garuda's attacks, positioning to stay inside the tornado AoE. Garuda teaches you that where you place your character is important to safely handle the mechanics, nothing more.

It's not a bad thing for players to fail from time to time. It makes them ask "What went wrong?" or "How can I do better?" If a player fails to hide behind the rocks for Garuda's shriek, or stands too close to them and gets them cleaved, do you think they'll fare better in AK HM's first boss? If they can't DPS the plumes fast enough, how will they handle Nidhogg's Sable Price? If they can't heal consistently through damage, how can they handle the Vault? Learning your class is one thing, everyone has different speeds at which they learn, some are more dedicated to optimization than others, and no one can teach you your playstyle. However, learning the fundamentals of PvE is a necessity. If a player doesn't know the basics, how will they ever learn an encounter that expects you to know the basics, then piles real mechanics on top of it?

[Malevicton]

Where are all of you super pro hardcore players? Never seen you in game.

People here sure try to look like god's gift to FFXIV.

The fact that anyone's equating not wiping in vault to "super pro hardcore" is itself a big problem