Seriously?

[Inferiae]

Then have fun, its not about the other players being good or bad, it might suck sometimes, but I still have fun, its a game for a reason, don't blame others for not having fun, I think new players exist even at 60.. surprisingly but I still wish to help them,

I'm not blaming the player, I'm talking about nerfing the dungeons. Fighting a moving striking dummy is not really my kind of 'fun'.

[Yunona]

I'm not blaming the player, I'm talking about nerfing the dungeons. Fighting a moving striking dummy is not really my kind of 'fun'.

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

[sirDarts]

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

What incentive do players have to learn, if everything they come across is faceroll easy?

[Yunona]

What incentive do players have to learn, if everything they come across is faceroll easy?

Go faceroll into your keyboard more in this forum, geez don't be such a jerk to players, teach them if you care so much. INCENTIVE- You do a nice things, a good deed, and thats it.

[TiaHariberux3]

Go faceroll into your keyboard more in this forum, geez don't be such a jerk to players, teach them if you care so much. INCENTIVE- You do a nice things, a good deed, and thats it.

No one needs to teach people there are already guides for classes on the internet yet I still see people failing at hard mode trials....Why should someone carry these players they cant even dodge aoes such players need help something that will force them to learn their class not nerfs. None really none of these dungeons are worth a nerf.

[Inferiae]

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

Not really. We can expect later dungeons to also be nerfed, actually. That's been the trend so far: people complain, they nerf, repeat.

And if a 50+ player hasn't learnt the basics that you need to be decent at HW dungeons, no amount of dungeons will teach them. I mean, they HAD to go through whole 50 levels. But that's another matter entirely, on my opinion. If the game keeps dumbing itself so the player doesn't have to learn anything, why and when would he learn at all?

[Yunona]

Not really. We can expect later dungeons to also be nerfed, actually. That's been the trend so far: people complain, they nerf, repeat.

And if a 50+ player hasn't learnt the basics that you need to be decent at HW dungeons, no amount of dungeons will teach them. I mean, they HAD to go through whole 50 levels. But that's another matter entirely, on my opinion. If the game keeps dumbing itself so the player doesn't have to learn anything, why and when would he learn at all?

I understand, I don't like easy stuff too much, right now on my alt, I get bored, I played WOW and so did my friend, we dislike the boring easy dungeons, but I won't go blame every player in the world, in fact, I bet a lot of people in this thread would meet in game and say the other sucked. Thats the issue,

[Inferiae]

I understand, I don't like easy stuff too much, right now on my alt, I get bored, I played WOW and so did my friend, we dislike the boring easy dungeons, but I won't go blame every player in the world, in fact, I bet a lot of people in this thread would meet in game and say the other sucked. Thats the issue,

I'm not blaming anyone for it. If anything, I'd blame this game's desing choices. And that's precisely what bothers me. Nerfing instead of making a proper learning curve.