I'm a 60 AST and have seen "bad players" but um, if you passed 60, and you are just grinding your other jobs or whatever. Why do you care? Stop whining yourselves. Its a game and bad players get punished through kicking, if they nerf it they nerf it. Its not going to ruin the game for you is it? Cause if it does you need to chill out. You are just as bad as them for whining, why not teach players since you all are apparently so avid to complain, or maybe you don't have the time, you need to whine about 7 other things. Just teach people, or be MLG pro somewhere else. You can express your opinion of course, but you can also use your time to help players, I run low level dungeons and such to help players who are learning, just so when they do hit the HW content they won't kill me.