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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Then just do normal, you're not required or needed.
    There is no actual instance progression in this game like you want. It's either arena boss fights or an entire face roll instance.
    If you don't want to work for higher ivl and dyable gear, you don't have to. Very simple here, bub.
    Yeah, except the content isn't released yet: bub. It might be harder then you think it is. It might have its pieces dyable already.

    Now, let me tell you why normal and hardmode is a bad idea.

    First of all, it takes up a ton of slots in the database. Second of all, do you know how RNG based the loot system is in the current raids? I ran Crystal Tower nearly 100 times just because a piece was not dropping.

    Making the start of the raid easy then get progressively harder means you have pieces of gear you can get on the way to the boss slowly making you stronger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    The developers have already said it's on par with the difficulty of the CT series.
    If CT was released when ilvl 90 was the cap and not ilvl100+ it wouldn't of been as easy as it is. Same with this series. If it was out before Alexander/Eso was it would of been a lot harder.

    I think the problem with the 24 mans is they release them far too late.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 10-25-2015 at 03:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I think the problem with the 24 mans is they release them far too late.
    They don't have it already developed and choose when to release it, so that's not the problem. The problem is that SE refuses to scale to a reasonable iLVL, say i195-i200.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 10-25-2015 at 03:11 AM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yeah, except the content isn't released yet: bub. It might be harder then you think it is. It might have its pieces dyable already.

    Now, let me tell you why normal and hardmode is a bad idea.First of all, it takes up a ton of slots in the database. Second of all, do you know how RNG based the loot system is in the current raids? I ran Crystal Tower nearly 100 times just because a piece was not dropping.

    If CT was released when ilvl 90 was the cap and not ilvl100+ it wouldn't of been as easy as it is. Same with this series. If it was out before Alexander/Eso was it would of been a lot harder.

    I think the problem with the 24 mans is they release them far too late.
    They already said it would be just like the CT series, so I don't need to play it to know it will be easy.

    So, it was a bad idea to make alex NM and alex savage? Because that's all I am asking for here. Should we only have alex nm or Alex savage because of server space? That's a terrible point you made. "No, we can't have content because of server limitations" lol.....

    The CT loot system should be changed then? Is that really a point you are trying to make? "the loot system is terrible, scrap the whole idea!!!11!!1." How about we improve the CT loot system and then do the HM version? Making the game better, what a terrible thing that is to do.... /rollseyes

    Making the start of the raid easy then get progressively harder means you have pieces of gear you can get on the way to the boss slowly making you stronger.
    what does this have to do with the CT series at all? Void ark won't require that type of progression, so why are you even making that a point as to why a HM void ark would be a bad idea? It's like your dragging an entirely different criticism about this game, the lack of meaningful progression paths, and trotting it out to say "HM verzion iz badz"
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    We all know void ark is going to be alt tabbed 1-2-3-combo netflix easy.
    Believe me, this will result in wipes (see Cloud of Darkness) ^^
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Believe me, this will result in wipes (see Cloud of Darkness) ^^
    nah, I did it all the time, I will continue to do it without any hassles. It does not matter anyways, if you try to do anything that resembles a proper dps rotation, you will rip hate from the tank more often than not. So, you can either watch yourself do 1-2-3, or you can watch netflixs and do 1-2-3.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    nah, I did it all the time, I will continue to do it without any hassles. It does not matter anyways, if you try to do anything that resembles a proper dps rotation, you will rip hate from the tank more often than not. So, you can either watch yourself do 1-2-3, or you can watch netflixs and do 1-2-3.
    Like what I say, if just 4 people play with minimum damage output and have an eye on netflix instead on the battle, it will result in wipes in the 2nd meteor phase

    people don't see the snowflakes showing up -> not enough occupied snowflakes -> a lot of people die -> not enough people for the cloud phase 5 sec after the meteor phase -> wipe

    And if you ripe hate from the tank ask another tank to be the MT.
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-25-2015 at 04:21 AM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    nah, I did it all the time, I will continue to do it without any hassles. It does not matter anyways, if you try to do anything that resembles a proper dps rotation, you will rip hate from the tank more often than not. So, you can either watch yourself do 1-2-3, or you can watch netflixs and do 1-2-3.
    I think I understand why my dungeon runs are slower now. Lazy players. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    We should probably experience the content before asking for more before its even released.
    I know, right? We don't even have Void Ark or know how it will play out and already we got people wanting a harder version? Gimmie a break.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I know, right? We don't even have Void Ark or know how it will play out and already we got people wanting a harder version? Gimmie a break.
    What I like is people who went in with ilvl130 gear getting outparsed by ilvl110 players because of laziness. One of my friends who was in ilvl70 gear was told she was worthless by a ilvl130 player because they wiped on one thing and only did 250 dps. She .. had an ilvl70 weapon, of course shes not going to be doing much damage.

    Yet, he was doing 300... Then died.

    If they ever DO have a parser. I want to see their ilevels right by it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    You must have missed the part where if you actually try, you die from crappy tanks? During WoD, if I even performed at 80%, I would die. Call it lazy, but I ain't about to rack up a repair bill because most players in this game have no idea how to play their class. But, it's all god. Avoid the actual points being made and fall back to "lawl lazy herp derp"
    An excuse from a lazy poopy person. Do your best and die eagerly. If you die 10 times you don't have to do anything, but at least you tried.

    I think your just lazy. I'd kick you and replace you with a more serious player in some games.

    You act as if there is some sort of penalty for dying. There isn't in this game. Bad excuse.

    I think the issue is, the tank doesn't feel the need to try because the dps don't try. Ever think of that? Maybe if you ripped aggro more he would step up his game and stop watching Netflix himself?
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    What I like is people who went in with ilvl130 gear getting outparsed by ilvl110 players because of laziness. One of my friends who was in ilvl70 gear was told she was worthless by a ilvl130 player because they wiped on one thing and only did 250 dps. She .. had an ilvl70 weapon, of course shes not going to be doing much damage.

    Yet, he was doing 300... Then died.

    If they ever DO have a parser. I want to see their ilevels right by it too.
    You must have missed the part where if you actually try, you die from crappy tanks? During WoD, if I even performed at 80%, I would die. Call it lazy, but I ain't about to rack up a repair bill because most players in this game have no idea how to play their class. But, it's all god. Avoid the actual points being made and fall back to "lawl lazy herp derp"
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