Scholar rant.

[DarkerOrange]

Do not macro embrace to any of your skills, it is a bad habit. The best thing about having the fairy is that she is not tied to your GCD timer. I have 2 Embrace macros set up, 1 is <tt> for when I'm DPSing (which is 80% of the time in Savage), and the other is <mo>, for when I'm healing and want to focus the fairy onto one target.
Also, make sure you Rouse on CD, it is incredibly powerful.

It just takes practice.
That said, if you don't like playing SCH, then don't play SCH.

[Rawrz]

I didn't read if anyone had suggested this yet, but do not waste your time on cancel macros. If anyone is below 80% the VI will try to Embrace them, (but who knows maybe your pc is fast enough to keep up with the macrolines!.) The easiest way is to just repeat your command in the macro, cuz you know your fairies are kinda deaf! This will create a psuedo Queue for your fairies. Each line takes .1-.25 seconds depending on your framerate! We can use that to our advantage An example is:


/ac Succor
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <t>
/macroicon "Whispering Dawn" Pet

I spent over two weeks trying to come up with a decent SHUT THE HELL UP SELENE AND CAST THIS Macro. This solution has worked about 95% of the time and has made me so much less stressed with my deaf fairies. :3 <3

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I spent over two weeks trying to come up with a decent SHUT THE HELL UP SELENE AND CAST THIS Macro. This solution has worked about 95% of the time and has made me so much less stressed with my deaf fairies. :3 <3

Well, it's not strange that Selene refuses to cast Whispering Dawn.

You may want to macro in a /stay if you REALLY want to macro anything together to force it out of her, rather than waiting for her to finish Embrace and HOPE she'll still use it at the end of the macro. It's a lot faster too

[Rawrz]

Well, it's not strange that Selene refuses to cast Whispering Dawn.

You may want to macro in a /stay if you REALLY want to macro anything together to force it out of her, rather than waiting for her to finish Embrace and HOPE she'll still use it at the end of the macro. It's a lot faster too

Canceling her macro, in my experience, will just RESET her Embrace, if anyone is below 80%. So yes this is the best solution for me. I was just using the template Provide earlier with Eos' Whispering Dawn, but thanks for that observation. Selene is the more aggravating of the two, because I can make up for Eos' skills to be a second or two late, but Selene needs to Fey Caress for the Warrior when I tell her. Promise OP! Give it a try! Also your suggestion to wait .1 seconds is telling Eos to wait 1 second. Its common knowledge that macros can't break down lower than one second increments. .1= 1 second. 1.1 = 2 seconds.

Double side note. I have a separate macro that does cancel her, I just don't put it with another macro, I keep it separate like a skill, after being unable to have success with an idea identical with your suggestion.

[giantslayer]

So I'm looking at the thread and I'm not entirely sure whats wrong here.

/micon "Fey Illumination" pet Eos
/pac “Fey Illumination”
/wait
/pac “Fey Illumination”
/wait
/pac “Fey Illumination”

Is not working. Nor is it for Fey Covenant. She does nothing.

Not sure what is happening there. My best guess is if you are executing another macro before this one can do what it needs to. When I use queuing macros like this (usually for Embrace), I have gotten in the habit of hitting my own action first, then commanding the faerie.

I use interrupts on all my cooldowns nowadays. That second or two could make the difference between the party having magic defense buff up in time for the big hit or the other healer having Fey Illumination in time for a Medica II. Faerie potency got nerfed hard in Heavensward so Embrace is equivalent to 200 potency at lvl 60. I'm not as concerned nowadays about throwing away a halfway cast Embrace as I was at lower levels.

/micon "Whispering Dawn" pet Eos
/ac Rouse
/pac Steady
/pac Guard
/pac “Whispering Dawn”

is also not entirely working. It'll cast Rouse, but she again, sits on her duff and does nothing while I get the "order has already been given" error.

That error message is normal and doesn't mean it isn't working. You are interrupting her by commanding her to use both Steady and Guard almost simultaneously. She can only execute one of those in such a short period of time so the other generates an error.

In general, how are you testing these?

An interrupt would probably work, provided it interrupts manually cast Embraces(which I'm being told it doesn't).

The macros will interrupt both manual and automatic casts of Embrace. What I was trying to explain in that part you are thinking of is if you DON'T use macros, your cooldown commands will actually queue by the game, but ONLY if your faerie is in the middle of an automatic Embrace, not a manual one. That is the reason why I still have macros for that stuff.

As for /wait, I tacked "1"(without quotes) after that command in the macro and it works as advertised.

Still rather not use them entirely, but I trip up on target switching.

It shouldn't be necessary to put a 1 after "wait," but I'm glad it is working. Constructing macros can sometimes be really frustrating because you have to do it a very specific way or it doesn't work (like /micon "Whispering Dawn" pet "Eos," for example).

Is the interrupt for Whispering Dawn still not working?

I have been working on reorganizing/rewriting/rewording my guide. This thread has motivated me to stop being lazy and finish it... I'll let you know when I do.

[giantslayer]

Canceling her macro, in my experience, will just RESET her Embrace, if anyone is below 80%. So yes this is the best solution for me. I was just using the template Provide earlier with Eos' Whispering Dawn, but thanks for that observation. Selene is the more aggravating of the two, because I can make up for Eos' skills to be a second or two late, but Selene needs to Fey Caress for the Warrior when I tell her. Promise OP! Give it a try! Also your suggestion to wait .1 seconds is telling Eos to wait 1 second. Its common knowledge that macros can't break down lower than one second increments. .1= 1 second. 1.1 = 2 seconds.

Double side note. I have a separate macro that does cancel her, I just don't put it with another macro, I keep it separate like a skill, after being unable to have success with an idea identical with your suggestion.

Having a macro to cancel Embrace without immediately giving her another command is basically pointless. You won't be able to execute another command manually fast enough before she would start auto-casting again if anyone is below 80%.

If you don't believe me, do the following to test:
1. Have faerie summoned.
2. Change equipment sets to something weak to drain all your HP.
3. Change equipment set back to your main to get max HP back.
4. While your health is below 80% and Eos is auto-casting on you, see if things work the way you expect.


Best approach for Fey Caress is to interrupt her with Steady and Guard. Give it a try. It should do what you really wanted in the first place.

/pac Steady
/pac Guard
/pax "Fey Caress"

[Nadirah]

Im just incredibly annoyed that while I like scholar, I *don't* like micromanaging and I'm basically being told if I don't, I suck.

I also don't like having to DPS as a healer. In addition to the hand issues my vision is shit. Constant target switching with this abysmal UI(too cluttered party frames) is incredibly annoying and I find I ignore one part or the other, tunneling because its hard to see everything.

If anyone is familiar with WoW addons, I use Grid there as both raid and party frames. I set up corner markers to indicate "hey you got a regen on that guy" and the like, but otherwise it looks like FFXIV alliance Windows.. Plain boxes(with energy/mana/etc bars and color coded hp bars by class).

*much* easier for me to see than our current system. Bleh.

[Rawrz]

I have used steady and guard together in a macro and still do to cancel her, in case she's casting during a critical aggro moment like after p1 on Bismarck. She just seems to skip macrolines on ps3. Upgrading to a SSD and repeating macro lines has fixed this for me.

[giantslayer]

Im just incredibly annoyed that while I like scholar, I *don't* like micromanaging and I'm basically being told if I don't, I suck.

I also don't like having to DPS as a healer. In addition to the hand issues my vision is shit. Constant target switching with this abysmal UI(too cluttered party frames) is incredibly annoying and I find I ignore one part or the other, tunneling because its hard to see everything.

If anyone is familiar with WoW addons, I use Grid there as both raid and party frames. I set up corner markers to indicate "hey you got a regen on that guy" and the like, but otherwise it looks like FFXIV alliance Windows.. Plain boxes(with energy/mana/etc bars and color coded hp bars by class).

*much* easier for me to see than our current system. Bleh.

Micromanaging really isn't really as intimidating as it sounds. "Micromanaging" really boils down to three things:
1. Faerie placement.
2. Manual use of faerie cooldowns instead of letting Eos blow them all immediately.
3. Manual usage of Embrace outside of auto-casting conditions (i.e. people above 80% or more than 21yalms away, which tanks probably will be in A1 if faerie is in the center).

You've already got placement down from the sound of it.
It is easy enough to think of Faerie cooldowns as your own cooldowns and manage them accordingly. The hard part with that is getting them to be reliable and/or immediate, and that is what macros will fix.
As for Embrace, developing a system where you keep the tank targeted and can use Embrace spam macros and Physick/Adlo+Embrace spam macros will take care of most of that. To be honest, unless you are operating outside of 21y from faerie, manual Embraces will be a fairly small percentage of her heals compared to the automatic ones.

As for DPS, this is why I recommend using attack macros. You can go back to my first post or my guide if you missed it. With my attack macros, I can either just keep the tank targeted and mindlessly attack whatever he is attacking, or I can use a focus target and all my attacks go on that enemy while I keep the tank targeted for heals. No switching necessary for DPS. I just have to worry about Cleric Stance, but not targeting.

SCH does take a lot of work to set up well with macros, but once you have a good setup, it's not too much harder to operate than other classes.

[Sylkis]

Have you tried not using macros at all

Fights are scripted so you always use the same skills at the same times so you can just use them ahead of time


Consider switching to a comfortable gamepad (sch still works fine just a lot of R1 button to switch bars)