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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    My cohealer is an AST, not WHM, and he certainly can't solo heal it.

    Result, I use Eos.
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    My groups MCH dps is lowish, BLM could be better and our SMN dies to stupid(usually gets mini on A1S at least once, then doesn't survive the jump). MCH rarely has time to play outside raid. His gear is slightly lacking.
    Eos is always fine with AST/WHM and she gets a lot of use in savage to effectively allow you to regen the raid while in cleric. We always have Selene for P1 and swap after split. Still, AST should be able to solo all healing until 0.5. With that being said about a potential gap in DPS they really should be picking up their weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Eos is always fine with AST/WHM and she gets a lot of use in savage to effectively allow you to regen the raid while in cleric. We always have Selene for P1 and swap after split. Still, AST should be able to solo all healing until 0.5. With that being said about a potential gap in DPS they really should be picking up their weight.
    I prefer not to have to switch fairies mid fight.

    I have found that people are bent on comparing the SCH healing play style with other mmos where healing tends to be more simplistic; buff, heal, repeat.
    I prefer that method of healing. I also prefer fights that aren't so heavily predictable. Heavily predictable fights is why the current tank meta even works, for example.

    I think you missed the bit in the thread where the OP mentioned (1) she was partnered with an AST and double stacking any job is generally not a good idea and (2) she had no real interest in leveling WHM.
    Ignore him, he complains more than I do, and that's saying something. I haven't been able to take a thing he says seriously since I first found him on EQ2Flames.

    Well, being a sub-par SCH isn't good either. AST and WHM can double stack just fine. The only class that can't really double stack is SCH.

    She can either do that, or learn to control her pet/fairy and spam spam spam because that is how the class works i'm afraid.
    We'd suggested swapping me to WHM(which I'm leveling anyways, much to my chagrin) but a friend of the raid leader's is absolutely adamant that the healer DPS is better if I stay SCH. Yeah, maybe, but the tank not being dead is more important.

    I think we're switching the roster up a bit anyways so I'm not sure what's going on. We got a few folks not showing up. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I prefer not to have to switch fairies mid fight.
    You can't have that mindset as a SCH in end-game raiding. Everything is situational. The switch is mainly to push DPS in phase 1 as everything is practically double damage for 0.5. Plus you can strategize these situations around eating your fairy for immediate Aetherflow, which also opens a window to re-summon as a different one. You don't have to use Dissipation, and can just swiftcast the change as that is how it's usually done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    You can't have that mindset as a SCH in end-game raiding. Everything is situational. The switch is mainly to push DPS in phase 1 as everything is practically double damage for 0.5. Plus you can strategize these situations around eating your fairy for immediate Aetherflow, which also opens a window to re-summon as a different one. You don't have to use Dissipation, and can just swiftcast the change as that is how it's usually done.
    I hang on to Swiftcast for dear life because it's inevitable that I have to rez someone.
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    Bonus points, turns out bf didn't properly seat my heatsink and it was just overheating.

    Replaced paste and reseated. How I didn't burn out my CPU with this little contact I'll never know. Literally, just the corner was squished as was used...
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    Seriously. -_-



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Seriously. -_-
    OMG PC building fail!! I am not a big fan of those Intel heatsinks though because the wires always suck and can get hit by the exposed fan blades.

    Regarding Scholar, I don't main healer bc my playing partner does but I never use the fairy much besides autopilot lol. I just place next to remote people that suck at dodging and go about my business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I don't want to level WHM, kinda dont really like WHM. lol

    That leaves AST.
    I figured as much, but I thought I'd ask

    The only other suggestion I can think of is making an Embrace macro to spam Embrace for you. I don't think it was suggested yet (I could be mistaken), so here's what I do:

    /pac "Embrace" <X> <wait.1>

    I repeat this line for the entire macro with the final line being an /echo indicating the macro had ended healing. <X> is just a place holder for where the tank(s) are usually defaulted to on my party list. In this case it'll be <2> and <3> and adjust as needed.

    In total I have three Embrace macros. One macro for Embrace spam on the first tank on the list, one macro for Embrace spam on the second tank on the list, and a third Embrace macro using a single Embrace as a <mo>.

    I don't know if this will work for you, but it might serve you better as you will only need to tap your Embrace macro on the tank once every ten seconds or so instead of constantly and might work better for your health concerns.
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    You could play WHM or AST.

    It sounds like SCH isn't the class for you, its the most active class in the entire game. You have to macro it and you have to be constantly on your toes healing and doing your rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You could play WHM or AST.

    It sounds like SCH isn't the class for you, its the most active class in the entire game. You have to macro it and you have to be constantly on your toes healing and doing your rotations.
    I think SCH complexity is slightly overrated. Yes, it is mechanically busy if you're playing at a high level, and it requires great situational awareness like the other healers, but it operates on an intuitive priority system more than on any strict system of time-sensitive rotations.

    Many SCHs seem to overcomplicate their load-outs (ironically so) with various macros combining abilities when they could do fine with an Embrace <mo> hot key, maybe one or two announcement macros, and possibly a few pet interrupt/placement macros to taste.
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