Scholar rant.

[Nadirah]

SCH does take a lot of work to set up well with macros, but once you have a good setup, it's not too much harder to operate than other classes.

That's my problem. I hate that I need to use *any*. I generally prefer to leave the fairy to whatever the hell she wants to do(and I prefer using Selene anyways but yeah...) but I can't because if you do, you're supposedly *bad*.

I *was* using target of target macros for the fairy to heal the target I'm nuking while casting Broil, but this past week the tank's been dying and our DPS has been low so I'm getting pushed into trying to DPS outside the first part of A1S and I'm *really* not comfortable with it. Partly because I hate Cleric Stance and partly because the damn fairy has a mind of her own. Tank's dropping like a rock and she wants to heal the idiot melee standing in bad. Thanks, Lily.


Bleh. Another reason I dont want to run with another job is because I've already blown tomes on two of them. Tired of "wasting" esoterics on a job I no longer get to use.

Have you tried not using macros at all

Fights are scripted so you always use the same skills at the same times so you can just use them ahead of time


Consider switching to a comfortable gamepad (sch still works fine just a lot of R1 button to switch bars)

Only gamepad I have that works with my PC is Xbox One controller and it's not comfortable to use. The joysticks in general aren't comfortable to use.

I have tried not using macros. They result in no one getting heals period when I'm dotting something and then I'm blamed when they're dead, regardless of if they should be taking damage or not. If I'm going by the "fights are scripted" thing, that requires me to either completely memorize every second of the fight(which I can't do) or rely heavily on someone that can to call it.

[Blessedbythesun]

Maybe you should take the time to set your hotbars with comfortable placement to manage fairies, healing (general hotbar then specialist hotbar) and DPS then take it from there. I have been raiding on PS4 exclusively without need of macros... Ever, and there have been a few times where fairies fail me but I blamed myself for not being better prepared (knowing mechanics, enemy behavior patterns, timing and watching focus bar for skills rather than call outs from party members.)

Yeah, find myself mashing out fairy abilities just to make sure they are being used, but not at the rate that I think I will break a finger in the process.

[Blessedbythesun]

Im just incredibly annoyed that while I like scholar, I *don't* like micromanaging and I'm basically being told if I don't, I suck.

I also don't like having to DPS as a healer. In addition to the hand issues my vision is shit. Constant target switching with this abysmal UI(too cluttered party frames) is incredibly annoying and I find I ignore one part or the other, tunneling because its hard to see everything.

If anyone is familiar with WoW addons, I use Grid there as both raid and party frames. I set up corner markers to indicate "hey you got a regen on that guy" and the like, but otherwise it looks like FFXIV alliance Windows.. Plain boxes(with energy/mana/etc bars and color coded hp bars by class).

*much* easier for me to see than our current system. Bleh.

Also, upon reading this, I feel like you may not find my advice/criticism at all of help.

Like for one, SCH is a pet job. You're going to HAVE to micromanage and SCH is a methodical job. Basic MP management, aetherflow stack management, healing priorty, shield buff management, pet management, UI management (cause all healers do need to tweek their UI to what suits them), keeping your sanity management, ect.

With everything I have read, you should stop doing endgame content as SCH because the demands of the job are to much for you to enjoy playing the way you want or play another job in general.

[giantslayer]

I *was* using target of target macros for the fairy to heal the target I'm nuking while casting Broil, but this past week the tank's been dying and our DPS has been low so I'm getting pushed into trying to DPS outside the first part of A1S and I'm *really* not comfortable with it. Partly because I hate Cleric Stance and partly because the damn fairy has a mind of her own. Tank's dropping like a rock and she wants to heal the idiot melee standing in bad. Thanks, Lily.

There are some things you need to consider specific to this fight. If this is done similar to A1N, then the two tanks are on either ends of the battlefield. If Eos is parked in the middle of the field, I'm not sure the exact distance, but I am pretty sure it is more than 15y, meaning Succor and Whispering Dawn won't reach.

The bigger problem would be if the distance is greater than 21y, because that is the range Lily uses for auto-casting. Normally, she heals you if below 80%, then the lowest % party member of you're good. If she is healing DPS at a higher percentage than the tanks, then it may be outside auto-cast range.

I'm not sure if the range is the issue, but if that is the problem, then there are three solutions:
1. Use Embrace spam on tank. This will only work if none of the DPS in auto-cast range are below 80%.
2. Off-set Eos to one side so that she can auto-heal one of the tanks.
3. Use Heel and offset yourself to one side so that Eos can auto-cast.


As to the whole DPS thing, I feel like a broken record. Use my attack macros and keep the tank targeted so you can Embrace spam and only have to worry about turning cleric stance off to do your own heals.

Also, am I correct in assuming that you are using Broil after applying all your DoTs? Those do more damage for less MP than Broil. I don't start using Broil until after all the DoTs, unless I am attacking an add that is going to die very quickly.

[Nadirah]

Yes, Broil after dots. Always. I can't offset the fairy without her being in range of our monk, who's on my assigned tank.

And as it is currently, I can't even try *anything* right now because my CPU is overheating, meaning PC is unuseable. Had figured some stuff out of wanted to try before saying fk it and leveling WHM(blech) to try that, but all four cores *idling* at 85... Bleh.

Comp is DRK,WAR, AST, SCH, MCH, MNK, BLM, SMN.

[Risvertasashi]

all four cores *idling* at 85...

Cripes. Do you fuel them with nitroglycerin or something?

[Nadirah]

Cripes. Do you fuel them with nitroglycerin or something?

Yeah....

http://imgur.com/Wen7oiR

BIOS idle. Inte bra.

Not sure if there's actually a sensor for those fans or if they're not working but I can't remember. Will have to check.

[MariaNyan]

A few things from my side, guess i can say i have a bit of experience in savage(a3s, all phases):

1. The only macro you absolutely need is embrace with mouse over, it allows you to heal a specific target when everyone is low(aoe damage).
/micon Embracepet
/pac Embrace <mo>
/pac Embrace <t>
2. The only macroheavy-part is on Eos. And you dont use Eos unless you are in A3S or your Co-Healer is bad. Really look at those WHM who can potentially soloheal everything but don't want to. #eyeroll If anyone dies because you as a SCH didn't micromanage your pet, then your co-healer is just bad. #getgood
3. You place the fairy at the start of the fight while casting bio/miasma/shadowflare and leave it there, re positioning is not needed in a1s, theres literally nothign that can kill the fairy and you need to concern to.
4. Leave the freaking fairy on sic if your normal rotation takes already all attention from you, having them not sic and using them anytime is still better than not using it or have a wipe because you couldn't micromanage, the difference is minimal.
5. Your Job as a SCH is to help your Co-healer with everything they cannot handle alone, otherwise focus on dps to push the phases, because why would you heal if they don't need it? In short thats prey in a1s.

People might differ in opinion, but you are mainly dps as sch. #getgood

[Deathtator]

From what I'm reading it seems most of your frustration is coming from your group rather than your inexperienced ability to play scholar.these are just a few key points that I can notice:

*Tying Embrace / Fey Illumination to all of your dps skills IS VERY INEFFICIENT

*The micromanaging that you think you have is honestly nothing. Sticking the fairy somewhere near the middle and clicking on her cd's as needed goes a long way. Heck even having Selene on sic would be fine.

*The only macro technically needed on a scholar is hard-casting embrace, as Maria Pointed out.

*Your co-healer SHOULD DO the MAJORITY of the healing

*Dps may be taking unnecessary raid damage due not knowing the fight.

This may sound biased and I apologize but the role of Scholar in savage is more about DPS and less about healing. If you are healing more than dpsing on "clear status" then there is obviously a problem with either the co-healer or the group as a whole. On a good run scholars can usually get 400-500 in A1S.

[DreamWeaver]

Your "Fey Illumination", "Whispering Dawn" etc macros aren't working as you did not specify a target:

/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

etc etc will have it working properly.