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    So I'm looking at the thread and I'm not entirely sure whats wrong here.

    /micon "Fey Illumination" pet Eos
    /pac “Fey Illumination”
    /wait
    /pac “Fey Illumination”
    /wait
    /pac “Fey Illumination”

    Is not working. Nor is it for Fey Covenant. She does nothing.

    /micon "Whispering Dawn" pet Eos
    /ac Rouse
    /pac Steady
    /pac Guard
    /pac “Whispering Dawn”

    is also not entirely working. It'll cast Rouse, but she again, sits on her duff and does nothing while I get the "order has already been given" error.


    What I was asking if it would be better for you to switch to the "other healer Job" and I left it that way since I wasn't quite sure if you were running SCH/AST or SCH/WHM. Since I know you're running AST can try to go AST/WHM. Again, just because SCH is most optimal in theory doesn't mean it's most optimal for your group dynamic, so the change might be for the better.
    His other healer job is SCH, and he hates the fairy just as much as I do. That's why he's *not* SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Lily is the real name of the fairy companion you have on SCH.
    Ahh I have only ever seen the names Eos and Selene. Ty for the answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    His other healer job is SCH, and he hates the fairy just as much as I do. That's why he's *not* SCH.
    You're missing the point. Here, let me try to be a bit more direct.

    If you don't mind leveling it, go level WHM and try it as WHM/AST. As much as SCH is op in terms of healer territory, there's no reason to run it if neither of you enjoy it and your group dynamic doesn't benefit from SCH playstyle.

    I'm not telling you to make your other healer to switch to SCH or for you to continue to play SCH. I'm telling you to move away from SCH and try to pick "the other healer" that your group didn't have - in this case WHM since your healing partner is an AST.
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    Well, I can't help you solve the root of the problem, but I can at least help you with your macro endeavor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    /micon "Fey Illumination" pet Eos
    /pac “Fey Illumination”
    /wait
    /pac “Fey Illumination”
    /wait
    /pac “Fey Illumination”

    /micon "Whispering Dawn" pet Eos
    /ac Rouse
    /pac Steady
    /pac Guard
    /pac “Whispering Dawn”
    Are those macro's literally like that? If so, here are the problems:
    You need to assign a time for /wait
    Macro lines try and go out simultaniously, you could say there's a queue "malfunction" going on there

    The working version would be:

    /micon "Whispering Dawn" pet Eos
    /ac Rouse
    /pac Steady <wait.1>
    /pac “Whispering Dawn” <wait.3>
    /pac Guard

    I'm not sure what you're trying to do with the Fey Illumination version, though. I'm guessing you want to use it as soon as it up, there is one problem with this:
    You can only have one active macro timer at a time. The moment you press another macro, the previous macro timer will cease all functions.
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    Ahh I have only ever seen the names Eos and Selene. Ty for the answer
    It's mentioned in the class quests. You run into someone from her past. Not saying more.

    You're missing the point. Here, let me try to be a bit more direct.
    I don't want to level WHM, kinda dont really like WHM. lol

    That leaves AST.


    Are those macro's literally like that? If so, here are the problems:
    They're as written, and no wait time was given in the source. Last I'd checked, implied was "1" and you can't do partial seconds.


    I'm not sure what you're trying to do with the Fey Illumination version, though. I'm guessing you want to use it as soon as it up, there is one problem with this:
    You can only have one active macro timer at a time. The moment you press another macro, the previous macro timer will cease all functions.
    No, I want her to cast it immediately after Embrace finishes, before she manages to get the next one started because I'm ramming the "cast this you wench" one down her throat. An interrupt would probably work, provided it interrupts manually cast Embraces(which I'm being told it doesn't). The goal was to have Fey Illumination and Fey Covenant to actually cast when I tell her to instead of waiting for her backside to actually get around to it, and the Rouse macro is for Whispering Dawn interrupt.

    I swear to Hate they're all copied directly out of that thread linked in here.

    I'm also going to run out of posts for the day soon. :/

    As a side note, this all is why I didn't have it macro'd in the first place.

    Tried, couldn't get any of them to work, and then said screw it. Then I was given a set that work, but not the way I want them to entirely, and the ones I want to work *dont*.
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    To be quite honest, after reading through the posts it seems helping with macros will only be detrimental to you in the long run, as it's clearly not what you're after. From the way you mention you dislike healing in this game and hate micro-managing, you are literally playing the worst possible job for you. If you're doing savage, everyone needs to bring their A-game, and quite frankly Scholars at that level will not be using many macros, if any at all, so it's a very involved job.

    Considering you also have a slight handicap in regards to execution, I think it's more important you question why these 'friends' are not accommodating for your needs. Worst case scenario, join a different raid group (tanks are always in need) and make a new bunch of friends. I also think levelling WHM will be a waste of time. If you don't like doing a certain thing in a game, you don't do it. The whole point is to have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    No, I want her to cast it immediately after Embrace finishes, before she manages to get the next one started because I'm ramming the "cast this you wench" one down her throat. An interrupt would probably work, provided it interrupts manually cast Embraces(which I'm being told it doesn't). The goal was to have Fey Illumination and Fey Covenant to actually cast when I tell her to instead of waiting for her backside to actually get around to it, and the Rouse macro is for Whispering Dawn interrupt.

    I swear to Hate they're all copied directly out of that thread linked in here.

    I'm also going to run out of posts for the day soon. :/

    As a side note, this all is why I didn't have it macro'd in the first place.

    Tried, couldn't get any of them to work, and then said screw it. Then I was given a set that work, but not the way I want them to entirely, and the ones I want to work *dont*.
    I'm not a big fan of macros myself, I wouldn't advise it personally as I'm an advocate of "full manual". But if you believe it makes your scholar life easier:

    You have two alternatives here;
    You either macro it together so it will always do Fey Illumination first when it's up, which would be:
    /pac "Fey Illumination"
    /pac "Embrace" <t>

    Or make a seperate macro for Fey Illumination that forces your fairy to cancel her current spell in favor for Fey Illumination:
    /pac Stay
    /pac "Fey Illumination"
    optional end:
    /wait 2
    /pac Heel

    The /stay command forces your fairy to drop everything it's doing and stay in place

    As for the other macro, I think you HAVE to add in a certain time for it. Whether you use the command line /wait # or the syntax <wait.#>, a number has to be present for it to work. Did the other macro work as I wrote it, though?
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    Not when they're Paladins. lol And yes, Savage. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be needing to do DPS, and I wouldn't be having issues in the first place.

    As for place/heel/whatever interrupt macros, I place her manually most of the time anyways so telling her to heel is going to muck that up.

    As for /wait, I tacked "1"(without quotes) after that command in the macro and it works as advertised.

    Still rather not use them entirely, but I trip up on target switching. Mouseover macros here annoy me so much. I've tried to use them, I've tried to like them. No dice.

    I heal in World of Warcraft *exclusively* with mouseover macros. They're functionally identical here, but the macro system has flaws in it that make it just annoy the crap out of me for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    As for place/heel/whatever interrupt macros, I place her manually most of the time anyways so telling her to heel is going to muck that up.

    As for /wait, I tacked "1"(without quotes) after that command in the macro and it works as advertised.

    Still rather not use them entirely, but I trip up on target switching. Mouseover macros here annoy me so much. I've tried to use them, I've tried to like them. No dice
    The /pac heel at the end was optional (as mentioned). It was there as I have no idea what kind of scholar you are. Some have it on perma-heel, other have it perma-placed - The latter being the better variation. You can leave it out if you want. /pac stay still force interrupts any spells being cast regardless if it was in place already or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    The /pac heel at the end was optional (as mentioned). It was there as I have no idea what kind of scholar you are. Some have it on perma-heel, other have it perma-placed - The latter being the better variation. You can leave it out if you want. /pac stay still force interrupts any spells being cast regardless if it was in place already or not
    In raid, I place her.
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