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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    Well, that honestly sucks. 3 months seemed way more reasonable.
    Really? 3 months is way to long to have an inactive house just cause you didn't want to log on, that's 1/4 of a year. 45 makes more sense, a player who wants to play will be logged at least 9-10 months of the year so if they don't play a month, they have 15 days to go before they lose house.
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    Odiron Dulmare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Really? 3 months is way to long to have an inactive house just cause you didn't want to log on, that's 1/4 of a year. 45 makes more sense, a player who wants to play will be logged at least 9-10 months of the year so if they don't play a month, they have 15 days to go before they lose house.
    Proof again that you have no house and know not what you speak of. Again, it may be an extra month and a half of waiting if I take a break, but it's still an over 2 year investment on my part. Just because I suddenly take a 3 month break doesn't magically invalidate 2 years worth of work, nor it means that I don't care about it.

    You people keep thinking that just because "We want an extra month" or so means we don't care about the house really shows just how little you know of the situation or how eager you are to tear someones house for no reason (And no, chances are you are not getting a house with this system either).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kietsu View Post
    No, the bottom line is that there is no space left and people want to own housing. It's a bit hard to care about the property of somebody who doesn't care about the property.
    And your biggest mistake is thinking you that taking a break means you don't care about it. That is the whole crux of the issue. We CARE about our house, and now we are permanently tied to it. Again, basically it means house owners, unlike everyone else in the game, no longer have the luxury of ever taking a break.

    No one else but house owners have this pressure. Players on Balmung won't suddenly find their characters deleted because "They needed server space". Your retainer won't disappear if you didn't access it for a random amount of time. Your gil won't suddenly be redistributed to help the economy. Nothing of this happens, except for house owners. This is what's wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    And your biggest mistake is thinking you that taking a break means you don't care about it. That is the whole crux of the issue. We CARE about our house, and now we are permanently tied to it. Again, basically it means house owners, unlike everyone else in the game, no longer have the luxury of ever taking a break.
    If you mean you can't take a break from paying the sub then yes, other if you just taking a break while keeping your sub up all you have to do it log in enter your house log back off and continue your beak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    You people keep thinking that just because "We want an extra month" or so means we don't care about the house really shows just how little you know of the situation or how eager you are to tear someones house for no reason
    Not eager, desperate is more like it.

    You have no idea how many qualified but homeless FCs there are on your own world of Balmung, I bet. 320 with another several hundred at rank 5 and very active.
    Balmung even has 4 owned but completely empty lots. 2 in the Goblet and 1 each in the other two housing districts.

    28 of your land owning FCs have 1-3 characters in them all between levels 1-15, and they are not active players.

    I don't know about the rest of the community, but I'll be damned if I'll ever go buy a personal house and deprive a homeless FC of all the content that comes with FC housing.

    So too bad but, I see no reason why home owners should not be required to log in once every 45 days, although I personally find that despicable behaviour when so many are out in the street, per se.

    Oh and chances are there will be a lot more qualified FCs sooner or later. You did have 1906 Free Companies registered on Balmung in August
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    Not eager, desperate is more like it.
    Yes, and that desperation is blinding people to the issue at hand. People are looking for scraps and trying to justify an absolute terrible system just so they get a very very minor (Read: Minuscule) chance of actually owning a house.

    People saying "Oh 45 days is enough" are typically those that don't own a house and are trying to turn a blind eye to the reality that this is terrible. Almost no company would ever offer such an unforgiving timing for anything important, much less a 1-2 year investment.

    But like I said, these people don't own a house and I assure you they'll be the first to realize "OMG 45 days too short" about a month after owning one and realizing that you can actually spend months without entering it despite playing daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayote View Post
    Yeah I think 45 days is too short. At least 90 days IMO, and id stick it closer to 6 months if it were up to me. Stuff happens. Not to mention how its perfectly normal and understandable for players to consume all the content, unsub, play something else for a few months and come back to another content patch or 2.

    They really need to just redo the entire housing feature. This limited space/neighborhood thing is ridiculous, impractical, and short sighted.
    Why should SE cater to people who abandon the game on a whim? Who don't pay their subs? While there are people who are actively playing and also want to utilize these limited resources?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    But like I said, these people don't own a house and I assure you they'll be the first to realize "OMG 45 days too short" about a month after owning one and realizing that you can actually spend months without entering it despite playing daily.
    If you are not entering the house, then you are not using it, if you are not using it, there is no reason for you to have it while denying it to someone who would be using it.

    Also once again, I DO NOT want a personal house, never would, so no, I am not someone looking for scraps, I don't care. It just baffles me how you people can defend the hogging of rare resources despite not utilizing them for a long period of time (yes, 45 days IS a long period of time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Why should SE cater to people who abandon the game on a whim? Who don't pay their subs? While there are people who are actively playing and also want to utilize these limited resources?
    Because its something they took a long time earning and collecting for it? Its easy not to give a @#*% when its not you losing anything. That is unless you resub to a game that is currently offering nothing new to entertain. And its not on a whim, its because they get bored or things come up. Who are you to judge anyone on whats "on a whim" or something reasonable? Because there are likely many many more players who have left the game for good and/or are way over 3-6 months already than there are those who are taking a break. Because at the end of the day, once the initial batch of houses are reclaimed (which likely wont be long), the rate at which more houses open up will be exactly the same (dependent mostly on rate of people unsubbing), so theyre basically screwing people over for unsubbing for reasonable times, just to get some extra lots in the beginning. This game gets new content every what? 3 months or so? Thats at least 90 days.

    Most importantly though, its because this is a half-assed band-aid fix. If demand is really as high as they say (or it was the day it was patched), they will all be bought out again within days or sooner, fixing nothing, because theyre too lazy to come up with a housing feature, for everyone, and screws over no one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
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    Way to not read anything but the bolded first sentence of my post to you.
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