Can we get an Official clarification on housing Demolish timer (45 or 90?)

[Nadirah]

45 days is a long enough to either log in or have a friend or family member log in for you.

And violate terms of service, sure.

[Malicewolf]

I have an illness and I disagree and found this notion distasteful. Not everyone's experience or situation will be the same, and being unwell yourself does not give you the authority to pass judgement on another persons situation or priorities. Just because someone has bigger issues for a time does not mean they won't look forward to returning to the game and enjoying their house when they are next able to.

I don't even own a house but I can sympathize with both sides of this argument. I just can't say I agree with most of the arguments in favor of the proposed system, and justifying taking houses away from other players. I just think the whole thing could have been handled better.

I am sorry to hear your circumstances and am not trying to say that every situation and circumstance is the same. I am not trying to speak for all of the ill community. That specific point was just ironic to me that people were fighting with someone who was in the situation they were describing and arguing with her that she does need something (which she clearly stated she doesn't). And I'm not saying that a player won't want to come back and enjoy what they once had if they were out due to unfortunate circumstances. But a line must be made somewhere to rid us of those players who have quit and no longer have ANY intention of loggin in. Could it have been longer? Yes. But honestly, 45 days is plenty. Everyone has a different opinion of "what's enough time". For SE, they probably based this on people who WANT to pay for their subs. Those saying "but I want to quite for 3-6 months and come back later", then go ahead and do so. During that 3-6 month absence, open up the limited space available for others. Go sell your house before you leave and when you come back, use the couple Million gil you got to buy another. The 45 day cycle will continue to be in effect even after the 1st time. Meaning others will lose their houses and you can get one. People quit everyday. People join everyday. It's a cycle. Keeping a limited number of houses stagnant (when half have quit) is what most have complained about.

@Malicewolf 45 days for combat tour enlisted troops isn't feasible without "illegal" account sharing.

SE is not going to ban someone because his/her mom logged in for them for 2 seconds so a house wasn't demolished. Nor would they ever even know honestly. The person logging in is not doing so with the intent to play 80 hours on said person's account.

[WinterLuna]

And violate terms of service, sure.

Like the thousands of players who openly use parsers and are violating the terms of service by using third party software?

[Catwho]

Come to think of it, is it really against the TOS l to share an account within a household?

I know a lot of families have a spare character they created on someone's account to let their kiddo run around the game supervised. E.g. husband and wife each have an account, but the wife's account also has the kiddo's character so they can play together.

[Malicewolf]

Honestly, SE doesn't even care that much about the same account so much as that those 2 can't play with one another. 1 account means only 1 character can play at a time. Sure, they would love for the husband and the wife to have their own separate subs, but if they are under the same account, both can't play at the same time. This is why i now have a ps4 and a computer version of the game with my gf. Unfortunately, both of us prefer the ps4 (which also contains both our main characters).

[Kayote]

Yeah I think 45 days is too short. At least 90 days IMO, and id stick it closer to 6 months if it were up to me. Stuff happens. Not to mention how its perfectly normal and understandable for players to consume all the content, unsub, play something else for a few months and come back to another content patch or 2.

They really need to just redo the entire housing feature. This limited space/neighborhood thing is ridiculous, impractical, and short sighted.

[WinterLuna]

Come to think of it, is it really against the TOS l to share an account within a household?

Even if it is, Square are not going to ban someone's account purely because a family member logged in for two seconds, and everyone knows this. People are just trying to find any form of argument against the fact people think 45 days is a valid time frame.

Plus Square would have absolutely no idea someone else was logging in for them in the first place.

[Raist]

The 45 day cycle will continue to be in effect even after the 1st time. Meaning others will lose their houses and you can get one. People quit everyday. People join everyday. It's a cycle. Keeping a limited number of houses stagnant (when half have quit) is what most have complained about.

Seen similar comments like this. The fervor with which some debate the demand for housing, it would appear there is a massive shortage of available plots. Just seems like we may quickly reach another saturation point and be right back at square one again.

We may find all they managed to accomplish is create a new group of players throwing a fit because limited supply once again ran out before they got to the counter.

They need to stop with the bandaid approaches and start implementing solutions (not just in housing, but things in general).

[Kyros]

Not eager, desperate is more like it.

Yes, and that desperation is blinding people to the issue at hand. People are looking for scraps and trying to justify an absolute terrible system just so they get a very very minor (Read: Minuscule) chance of actually owning a house.

People saying "Oh 45 days is enough" are typically those that don't own a house and are trying to turn a blind eye to the reality that this is terrible. Almost no company would ever offer such an unforgiving timing for anything important, much less a 1-2 year investment.

But like I said, these people don't own a house and I assure you they'll be the first to realize "OMG 45 days too short" about a month after owning one and realizing that you can actually spend months without entering it despite playing daily.

[Malicewolf]

Seen similar comments like this. The fervor with which some debate the demand for housing, it would appear there is a massive shortage of available plots. Just seems like we may quickly reach another saturation point and be right back at square one again.

We may find all they managed to accomplish is create a new group of players throwing a fit because limited supply once again ran out before they got to the counter.

They need to stop with the bandaid approaches and start implementing solutions (not just in housing, but things in general).

Now that is something I can completely agree with ^^
While I do like that getting a house is a bit of a challenge (from the money and availability aspect) the ratio of houses to players is significantly low. Though... I would say I would rather they eliminate the ability to buy a personal house (I know many will disagree). OR if they just made it a requirement for multiple people to get a house together (would help once again). I don't see why you can't just add people to the availability of being able to use a house. Even if they made it rent based (something where the players who do not own the house, must pay a fee to stay, so then even alt's must be played or be booted from said house). Granted, then this could get abused for gil farming I guess... (but come on... not like you can't just make an alt, give gil to an FC mate or put it in Company Chest, then get it on another character).

Yes, and that desperation is blinding people to the issue at hand. People are looking for scraps and trying to justify an absolute terrible system just so they get a very very minor (Read: Minuscule) chance of actually owning a house.

People saying "Oh 45 days is enough" are typically those that don't own a house and are trying to turn a blind eye to the reality that this is terrible. Almost no company would ever offer such an unforgiving timing for anything important, much less a 1-2 year investment.

But like I said, these people don't own a house and I assure you they'll be the first to realize "OMG 45 days too short" about a month after owning one and realizing that you can actually spend months without entering it despite playing daily.

And no... most of the people who argue this are actually house owners... They just don't own 50 houses (because those who do just HAVE to have all of them xD). The people who are arguing that 45 days is enough are the one's that only have what they use and use it on a constant basis.

And yes, I COULD decide to log in daily and not visit my house. But I tend to like my house and using it. Even if I didn't though, it's not hard to teleport directly to it and enter for 2 seconds.