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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    I really don't understand why healers don't want to dps, they have the potential to put out 70% of a dps class (more in aoe situations if no aoe classes) as do tanks, so total of 3.4 dps class capabilities in any given expert dungeon.
    that 70% of a real DPS is on a dummy without ever using any healing spell. so all your numbers are wrong, because you actually have to heal between dpsing. i heared somewhere around 300 DPS as a healer is realistic (prove me wrong, i'm on PS4 and can't see my dps). so that 5 mins are probably just 2.5 mins faster.

    if i do DPS i need around 17 to 30 mins for one expert dungeon. if i don't do dps i also need 17 to 30 mins for one expert dungeon. my fastest run was btw 12 mins - only dpsing on bosses.
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    Last edited by Tint; 10-21-2015 at 02:06 PM.

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    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
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    Shaggy Grant
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    When I run as sch I pull 1k+ on trash and usually 600+ on bosses, but my sch is only around 178 ilvl, others in here have shown their parses where they pull 700-900 on boss mobs in experts.

    When I play ast my dps on trash is 90% dependant on the other dps in the group, I can pull close to 2k until my MP floors and if the actual dps suck that quickly drops to 300-400 but if they are good it maintains around 12-1300 by the end of the fight, remember this is with my first 10 seconds of the fight spent getting all my regens up and extended, so my actual dps from the point I start until I stop nuking is probably a lot higher. On bosses usually 500 or so, my ast alt is ilvl 171.

    90% of dps classes are pulling 700 or less in experts from my experience.

    When I run as drk I'm pulling around 1200 on trash and 950-1k on bosses (pulled a 1150 on final fractal boss once, nin/nin combo is OP for drks)

    Edit: To the titan HM thing, you don't need that medica 2 on him landing, everyone will be around 90% from the initial cast alone, the regens help for the first 10 seconds but then you have 20 seconds of over healing. You only need med 2 when he starts stomping 5-6 times in a row, and that's only for MP efficiency, if you really wanted to avoid overhealing you could probably get away without a single med 2 the whole fight, especially if your partner is helping with aoe heals. In final phase the stomps are pretty much exactly 1 min apart so the sch can have their aoe regen going every single one if they are running eos.
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    Last edited by Gorlioliolio; 10-21-2015 at 07:57 PM.

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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    that 70% of a real DPS is on a dummy without ever using any healing spell. so all your numbers are wrong, because you actually have to heal between dpsing. i heared somewhere around 300 DPS as a healer is realistic (prove me wrong, i'm on PS4 and can't see my dps). so that 5 mins are probably just 2.5 mins faster.

    if i do DPS i need around 17 to 30 mins for one expert dungeon. if i don't do dps i also need 17 to 30 mins for one expert dungeon. my fastest run was btw 12 mins - only dpsing on bosses.
    On SCH I can pull 700 ish single target and 1.3k+ on larger pulls, quite often matching or beating DF DPS classes.
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