WHM needs more instant heals

[technole]

Where is Assize? That is a free, instant, medica + MP restore + damage that no other healer job has. That should be used on its 90s cooldown as much as possible because of MP restore, which is also another perk that AST does not have. It only has MP refresh skill.

Your other issue is that you see Tetra as an emergency heal, which is what Benediction is for. Tetra is up every 60s for 700 potency more than a Cure II and should be used appropriately for MP management and if-needed for certain mechanics. It should be used more liberally, not as an emergency. WHM Cure II proc is a 50% cost cast and that is pretty large since it costs 884 at level 60. AST doesn't have free or reduced MP rate proc.

You really should look at your points from an MP management perspective as well, you don't really spam Aspected Benefic for its 700+ MP, because you'll be out of MP real fast if you did that.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

Where is Assize?

Your other issue is that you see Tetra as an emergency heal, which is what Benediction is for. Tetra is up every 60s for 700 potency more than a Cure II and should be used appropriately for MP management and if-needed for certain mechanics.

You really should look at your points from an MP management perspective as well, you don't really spam Aspected Benefic for its 700+ MP, because you'll be out of MP real fast if you did that.

Thanks for the feedback, the discussion should be limited to an emergency single target situation. So AST could rely on spamming Aspected Benefic.
Assize could be used but due to its limited range I don't feel its something that you could rely on 100% of the time and also because you should be using Assize as soon as possible for MP management and the fact that it is on a 90 s timer.

I do try to use cureII and save tetra for an emergency, and when I mean emergency I don't mean rare occasions, I'm referring to when the tank's HP falls below 55% which happens quite often so I do use tetra there. But when Bene or Tetra are not up, then what? Besides Swiftcast+Cure2 which I don't want to consider in the discussion because all the healers have that on top of their other abilities. Not that an instant proc Cure II is 100% reliable either but it helps.

[technole]

Well, if this is about who has the best tools for instants. WHM has the best instant skill in the game for single target emergency heal with Benediction. It's about equal to Hallowed Ground for PLD, which is the best immunity in the game. Yes, they have long cooldowns but if you are getting into situations that require such cases often than the cooldown, then there is something else going wrong. Now for it's animation delay, the same with PLD you sort of time it right when you know you need it. Over time it's not much of an issue.

For end-game it's good to time it with DRK Living Dead for some mechanics, that is never a problem because you have 10s. Or WAR's Holmgang if-needed but that one you have more wiggle room for it's 6s and don't really have to top them off and can use other heals instead.

SCH could burn Lustrates, but that does require being out of Clerics, and how many stacks you have available but they can get more using Dissipation. AST has ED, on a 40s CD, but that is the only real instant they have that is potent. Aspected Benefic is either a Regen or Shield potency with less than half the potency of Tetra. Still, you wouldn't spam that skill because it's very high MP cost.

[Risvertasashi]

Honestly... WHM has always been about precasting. Anticipation. Knowing who's going to get hurt and about by how much.

They say scholar is proactive and WHM is reactive but as far as I'm concerned, it's just the opposite... for the reason you said: SCH is king of instants.

If you play WHM as in ARR, Tetra (and assize, etc) are a really nice boost to the class. If you need more than that, people aren't dodging too often or you're still learning the encounter. When that big hit goes off, you should have a cure/cureII already on the way.

Assize, Tetra, Asylum, Benediction, Regen

Sorry no, WHM does not need more instant heals.

I wouldn't call Asylum and Regen instant heals. They have no cast time, true, but they don't restore HP instantly: You have to wait until the next tick.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I wouldn't call Asylum and Regen instant heals. They have no cast time, true, but they don't restore HP instantly: You have to wait until the next tick.

Well, that is your right to view them as such. I view them as instant, as they do have no cast time and, ya know, actually provide healing.

Even so, not counting them, WHM still has Tetra, Bene and Assize. AST has Aspected Benefic and Essential Dignity. Please don't kid yourself into thinking WHM is lacking in any way.

[technole]

Yeah it's just semantics we are getting into here. Asylum and Regen are instant skills, sure they require a tick to heal if we want to get that deep.

Seems like the OP is just running into a bad tank situation (cooldowns, bad gear, etc) or something that is making them blow both their WHM instants and needing constant Cure IIs, which in itself is a problem because that is also a ticket to running out MP. Even a SCH would be out of Aetherflow stacks in a situation like that burning Lustrates, AST would be out of MP if they had to use ED and spam Aspected Benefic/Benefic II. So the issue isn't the job, more like the situation.

[Risvertasashi]

Well, that is your right to view them as such. I view them as instant, as they do have no cast time and, ya know, actually provide healing.

If we want to be a bit more precise:

No, they do not provide healing. They instantly provide a buff. This buff then provides healing, but may take as long as 3 seconds before it does.

Let's not kid ourselves. They're in no way comparable to assize, tetra, bene, lustrate, AB, etc.

[NorthernLadMSP]

If we want to be a bit more precise:

No, they do not provide healing. They instantly provide a buff. This buff then provides healing, but may take as long as 3 seconds before it does.

Let's not kid ourselves. They're in no way comparable to assize, tetra, bene, lustrate, AB, etc.

Great job ignoring the other point I made. What a way to cherry pick a response. Ciao.