WHM needs more instant heals

[Marcellus_Cassius]

So how AST can instant cast Benefic II (Cure II) when it procs, it would be awesome if a proc'ed Cure II could be instant.

Why its needed?

AST can spam Aspected Benefic, which under Nocturnal Sect is an instant Adloquium, instant Benefic (Cure II) casts if proc'ed, and Essential Dignity. As an AST I feel pretty comfortable with a single-target emergency with this.

SCH is instant heal king, no troubles here.

As WHM in a single target emergency I have Tetragrammaton on 60 s cooldown and pray that the other healer isn't a WHM and has instant heals.

Left out using Swiftcast+Cures as all the classes can do this, and Benediction + Assize because I'm referring to the very occasional HP drops (<55%) that occur frequently not the 351 HP left what do I do emergency. Assize was left out because you should be using it every 90 seconds for MP management and it has a 90 s cooldown so chances are you can't depend on this all the time.

Please limit discussion to frequent emergencies (<65% but >35%)

[technole]

Where is Assize? That is a free, instant, medica + MP restore + damage that no other healer job has. That should be used on its 90s cooldown as much as possible because of MP restore, which is also another perk that AST does not have. It only has MP refresh skill.

Your other issue is that you see Tetra as an emergency heal, which is what Benediction is for. Tetra is up every 60s for 700 potency more than a Cure II and should be used appropriately for MP management and if-needed for certain mechanics. It should be used more liberally, not as an emergency. WHM Cure II proc is a 50% cost cast and that is pretty large since it costs 884 at level 60. AST doesn't have free or reduced MP rate proc.

You really should look at your points from an MP management perspective as well, you don't really spam Aspected Benefic for its 700+ MP, because you'll be out of MP real fast if you did that.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

Where is Assize?

Your other issue is that you see Tetra as an emergency heal, which is what Benediction is for. Tetra is up every 60s for 700 potency more than a Cure II and should be used appropriately for MP management and if-needed for certain mechanics.

You really should look at your points from an MP management perspective as well, you don't really spam Aspected Benefic for its 700+ MP, because you'll be out of MP real fast if you did that.

Thanks for the feedback, the discussion should be limited to an emergency single target situation. So AST could rely on spamming Aspected Benefic.
Assize could be used but due to its limited range I don't feel its something that you could rely on 100% of the time and also because you should be using Assize as soon as possible for MP management and the fact that it is on a 90 s timer.

I do try to use cureII and save tetra for an emergency, and when I mean emergency I don't mean rare occasions, I'm referring to when the tank's HP falls below 55% which happens quite often so I do use tetra there. But when Bene or Tetra are not up, then what? Besides Swiftcast+Cure2 which I don't want to consider in the discussion because all the healers have that on top of their other abilities. Not that an instant proc Cure II is 100% reliable either but it helps.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

SCH is instant heal king, no troubles here.

Interesting how this is acceptable as scholar, but unacceptable as Astrologian.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Assize, Tetra, Asylum, Benediction, Regen

Sorry no, WHM does not need more instant heals.

[Zaj_Quilos]

AST can't spam Aspected Benefic because it would eat their MP. WHM have enough heals. They don't need anything else.

[Aillith]

Considering the delay I get on Benedicition, I hardly call it instant.
I can smush that button as much as I want while the tank is holding onto deal life, but it makes no difference - b the time the animation plays the tank is dead and the skill has triggered uselessly and is now on cool down.

I don't rely on benediciton for clutch saves anymore - have found it to be too unreliable considering he delays I experience with it.

[technole]

Well, if this is about who has the best tools for instants. WHM has the best instant skill in the game for single target emergency heal with Benediction. It's about equal to Hallowed Ground for PLD, which is the best immunity in the game. Yes, they have long cooldowns but if you are getting into situations that require such cases often than the cooldown, then there is something else going wrong. Now for it's animation delay, the same with PLD you sort of time it right when you know you need it. Over time it's not much of an issue.

For end-game it's good to time it with DRK Living Dead for some mechanics, that is never a problem because you have 10s. Or WAR's Holmgang if-needed but that one you have more wiggle room for it's 6s and don't really have to top them off and can use other heals instead.

SCH could burn Lustrates, but that does require being out of Clerics, and how many stacks you have available but they can get more using Dissipation. AST has ED, on a 40s CD, but that is the only real instant they have that is potent. Aspected Benefic is either a Regen or Shield potency with less than half the potency of Tetra. Still, you wouldn't spam that skill because it's very high MP cost.

[Risvertasashi]

Honestly... WHM has always been about precasting. Anticipation. Knowing who's going to get hurt and about by how much.

They say scholar is proactive and WHM is reactive but as far as I'm concerned, it's just the opposite... for the reason you said: SCH is king of instants.

If you play WHM as in ARR, Tetra (and assize, etc) are a really nice boost to the class. If you need more than that, people aren't dodging too often or you're still learning the encounter. When that big hit goes off, you should have a cure/cureII already on the way.

Assize, Tetra, Asylum, Benediction, Regen

Sorry no, WHM does not need more instant heals.

I wouldn't call Asylum and Regen instant heals. They have no cast time, true, but they don't restore HP instantly: You have to wait until the next tick.

[Pomelo]

So how AST can instant cast Benefic II (Cure II) when it procs, it would be awesome if a proc'ed Cure II could be instant.

Instead of being 0 MP? Or you want both?

If you want both, then as an AST I want my procced Benefic 2 to be free and insta <3