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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reih View Post
    The tools I mention do exist and are used for this kind of behavior I mentioned before by the same group you denominate raiders. So, my question is: are you really a raider?
    This may be a startling revelation here, but the fact that I engage in endgame raid content with the intent to progress makes me a raider. My static isn't the best (we are just starting A3S) but we're definitely not the worst that's out there, either. Either way, I'm not here to judge people for how they choose to play the game. If people don't want to learn the optimal gear setup or rotation for their class, okay, that's their choice. To some people, glamour is endgame and RP is where it's at. There's room for all of us here. The thing is, I also have the choice of the type of people I wish to raid with. I don't have a problem helping people if I know up front that's what I'm doing, but I also don't play this game to carry. I give my all in a raid, and I expect the same of the other seven people.

    To that end, I run a parse. Booting up a parsing program doesn't magically turn me into a rage-fueled lunatic that kicks people from Expert Roulette for doing under 1000 DPS. I use that parse to better myself and to help people that ask me to help them better themselves, as well as helping to ferret out problems when a raid group I'm in isn't clearing content. I don't use it to confront randies in dungeons for underperforming. I might roll my eyes a bit and buckle down for a slow run, but ultimately, DF is what it is and I know that. TL;DR - being a raider doesn't mean you have to be an elitist prick. You can quite easily be one without being the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    You see how easy that was? Do you see how easy it is not to paint in broad strokes and treat you like a human being? Why can't you do the same for raiders? You have to drag me into an argument about an off-topic point, upset me with a satirical comment, then try to prove your point after provoking me? Nice bait and switch and I should have seen it coming.

    Thanks for leaving this thread, you have done nothing constructive here.
    Yeah, that's why I just never bothered replying to her until now. We can argue until we're blue in the face that not all of us are out to get every single person that we perceive as a "non-raider" but the viewpoint she's portraying is honestly just so irrational that nothing you or I or anyone says is going to change her mind. She's going to go right on thinking every last person that she categorizes as "raider" is out to make "non-raiders" feel bad about how they play the game. Or something. I'm not even really sure at this point.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 10-07-2015 at 04:31 AM.