so their is no point in playing some jobs?

[Martin_Arcainess]

Just to clear a few things up, PLD's can do Savage, just requires more gearing.

As for the DRK + PLD magic Defense issue.

The main Magic Defense for DRK is Dark Mind, it only has a 60 sec CD and combined with DA can reduce magic damage by 30%.
For PLD and DRk they have Ramparts/Shadowskin Senitel/Shadow Wall.

Both share Foresight which only reduces physical damage by increasing their Defence not Magic Defence.

[AzraelX]

To answer OP:

BRD is messed up not sure when fix is coming

NIN- mudra fix coming in 3.1
PLD- damage increase coming in 3.1

[Martin_Arcainess]

To answer OP:

BRD is messed up not sure when fix is coming

NIN- mudra fix coming in 3.1
PLD- damage increase coming in 3.1

Has the PLD DPS increase been confirmed?

[Maero]

Well PLD could need changes
Ninja lag messes *some players up but not all so not broke. Future patch Se said they are changing coding or something so hopefully less issues.
And Bard, well there is lots of clueless Bards in the SE forum you have to understand, QOL fixes no questions are needed but it is not "broke"
In the end pay no attention to what some players say but do what is best for you and what YOU want to play as

[Sailysium]

Just to clear a few things up, PLD's can do Savage, just requires more gearing.

As for the DRK + PLD magic Defense issue.

The main Magic Defense for DRK is Dark Mind, it only has a 60 sec CD and combined with DA can reduce magic damage by 30%.
For PLD and DRk they have Ramparts/Shadowskin Senitel/Shadow Wall.

Both share Foresight which only reduces physical damage by increasing their Defence not Magic Defence.

Don't forget Delirium and Reprisal (though gated by parry) from Drk add to the magic mitigation as well

[AzraelX]

Has the PLD DPS increase been confirmed?

yes Yoshi ppl said they be making PLD changes in 3.1 - he mentioned it in last live letter. There was a thread about it...i don't have link.

[Whiston]

yes Yoshi ppl said they be making PLD changes in 3.1 - he mentioned it in last live letter. There was a thread about it...i don't have link.

Absolutely. They mentioned there will be some minor changes to PLD in 3.1
At no point did they explicitly state it would be a damage increase. At this point it's just speculation.

[SendohJin]

yes Yoshi ppl said they be making PLD changes in 3.1 - he mentioned it in last live letter. There was a thread about it...i don't have link.

changes in no way implies DPS increase.

Why do people keep saying this? DRK has only 1 CD for magic. PLD's CDs work for physical and magical.

it's on a low cooldown and stacks with Shadowskin and Shadow Wall

[Dante_V]

All of these jobs are viable in any content in this game and the particular in regards to Pally is more towards dps being geared (and making the dps checks without the necessity for increased tank dps) than need to over gear the pally itself. All of these jobs are fine.

[RiceisNice]

Why do people keep saying this? DRK has only 1 CD for magic. PLD's CDs work for physical and magical.

DRK also has the same cooldowns as PLD (Rampart/Shadowskin, and Sentinel/Shadow Wall), on top of having Dork Arts + Dork Mind.

Paladin has a shield which...only mitigates physical damage part of the time, as well as two abilities (bulwark and sheltron) and they have less main tank damage in exchange for it. The result is that they're in content where their advantage (better physical mitigation) is not applicable, while the downfall they have for it (overall dps) is still present

All of these jobs are viable in any content in this game and the particular in regards to Pally is more towards dps being geared (and making the dps checks without the necessity for increased tank dps) than need to over gear the pally itself. All of these jobs are fine.

Even then, that is the difference to why the first A4S clears (where the biggest gate to clearing progression competitively is dps checks, not tank survivbility). And beyond that, a PLD has no advantages over DRK in something A3 or A4 (and especially a4) which is more or less the problem at hand. The only thing they'll accomplish is give your party a harder time because of how the fight or the paladin is designed (mostly the former). From a design standpoint, the former would be fine, but the later of my statement is just bad design/balancing.