Yoshi P's Stance on Pld

[Zdenka]

I have a question. How come you never had the WAR Berserk and build a threat lead for you to provoke off? Was it too finicky, a DPS loss or just not a substantial enough lead?

We tried this it didn't work so well for us. But we couldn't really come up with a definitive answer (though we had suspicions). Curious to hear your perspective.

I proposed once to have the WAR start as MT, and we tried it once. WAR DPS dropped, and the WHM's DPS dropped (oh, we had the WHM solo heal and he managed 300-400 DPS in the first 3 minutes at the same time?) We also used Hallowed to take the entire first cleave set on the hand without having to split it. Basically to just have the MT in DPS stance meant someone(or more) lost DPS, MP, or threat was iffy, etc. So in the end we figured it was fine the way it was, I was estimating nearly a 200 DPS gain if we practiced WAR MT, PLD OT at the start, but it really didn't get close to that. (200 DPS x 180 seconds = 36,000 HP or roughly 20 seconds on enrage timer)


Basically the inconsistency wasn't worth it at that time. As soon as we hit a wipe at.... 12,000? boss HP (with our BLM dying) we knew it was doable with what we were doing anyways. Basically we didn't change right away, so we were too deep into the fight to make any major strategy changes that cause multiple people to revaluate thier process in the fight.

Since we used both PLD and MNK in that fight, instead of the other 4 clears that week pre-weapons using DRK+DRG (one used a MNK+DRK i think) we had to be completely optimized in every section of the fight as we were working with a DPS deficit. We cleared right at the enrage yes, for our clear but DRG did the same DPS as MNK back then, also buffed your MCH/BRD, AND also buffed the party (battle litany), and then DRK did more.... well I guess as I said in the other post I don't think those DRK clears did that much more than I did on PLD but anyways... I'd like to say that's the reason we had to optimize so much, is that we were just playing with a shot leg. It's hard to exactly evaluate how well the DPS from each clear was doing, but based on how we were attempting it with an undeniably worse comp, I'd have to wager we had to perform at a higher standard to achieve the same results (ie a clear). Obviously the 4 groups that cleared it before us had spectacular players as well though so its possibly they would have been able to clear it using PLD/MNK also, but maybe just not as quickly as the set ups they switched to.