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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowy_Mist View Post
    To be fair on their part Dervy did a post on his dps compared to a monk of similar item levels at 195 no food pot etc and he got a tad over 1.3k.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...lh61?context=3
    Higher than I would've expected; but it fulfills a few conditions that Valkyrie seems to take for granted. Perfect play + good luck. Certainly not the standard or the conditions described by the above.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowy_Mist View Post
    To be fair on their part Dervy did a post on his dps compared to a monk of similar item levels at 195 no food pot etc and he got a tad over 1.3k.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...lh61?context=3
    I believe ge stated that both the mnk and his parse were "cherry picked" as the highest they both did out the same number of dummy parses. So, I do not believe 1.3k was the "norm" at I lvl 192.
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    The best we were all getting was about 1315ish at ilvl 200+.
    I get about 1285 as i194 without food or pots, but I only parse for about 3 minutes. The longer you parse, the less your DPS is for a number of reasons, human error, longer time from opener is less DPS too since opener is a huge ass DPS burst. If he parsed for maybe 90 seconds, it's possible...either that or he used potion/food and maybe Mercy Stroke XD
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    now a il193+ drg that cant do a 1.3k dps on 3 dummy's in a strait line X X X <rear solo needs to improve even playing like 70% efficient could do 1.26k drunk missing most positional. no food no pots no party just optimal rotation. read drg thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-DPS-Paradigm

    and yep my tests are done on a jp server masamune at 167 to 194ms ping. learn to play if you cant hit stationary targets course tank parse tank was positioned X X (pld) X so circle of scorn hit all dummy's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    now a il193+ drg that cant do a 1.3k dps on 3 dummy's in a strait line X X X <rear solo needs to improve even playing like 70% efficient could do 1.26k drunk missing most positional. no food no pots no party just optimal rotation. read drg thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-DPS-Paradigm

    and yep my tests are done on a jp server masamune at 167 to 194ms ping. learn to play if you cant hit stationary targets course tank parse tank was positioned X X (pld) X so circle of scorn hit all dummy's.
    Then I have but only one thing to say to you.

    You are easily the best player I have EVER met. I would be HONOURED to wash your feet. Fuck, I'm pretty sure the entire thread you just linked would line up for your secret sauce!

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    now a il193+ drg that cant do a 1.3k dps on 3 dummy's in a strait line
    How did this slip my attention!

    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    But.....70% effeciency and still doing 1260 dps means 100% is 1800. Are you exaggerating just a little or no?
    *Gasp* how...dare you!

    DRAGOONS! PROTECT YOUR MASTER!

    *Sub-optimal Dragon Fire Dive!*
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    Last edited by RapBreon; 09-24-2015 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Important stuff I didn't notice

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    I'd love to see flash get something like a very short moderate potency DoT, like 80-100 potency over 6 seconds. either that, or attach a +5-10% physical damage up effect to the blind status. It would make a lot of sense-hard to defend when you can't see, and would up plds aoe dps in a noticeable but unique way. bosses are pretty much always immune to blind, so this would have no impact on raid performance for better or worse.
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    Or simply lowering the cooldown on Circle of Scorn could achieve a similar effect.
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    That would do the trick. sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.
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    But.....70% effeciency and still doing 1260 dps means 100% is 1800. Are you exaggerating just a little or no?
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    I love how fools don't take ping into calculation each 100 is like 10% efficiency loss So even performing optimally I would have been 84% at best, yeah maybe I was lieing a tiny bit about 70% but already 10% every second efficiency loss so would have been like 1.44k with party but the idea in solo dummy parses is to factor in team benefits and possible debuffs after and yep that's how all the first server clears were done they did their homework on optimizing their stats and rotations.

    No were getting pld clears that first one was like 2 weeks after first clears cause people fighting for first clears worked out the optimal formations that have resulted in even if pld can clear stuff now its sub optimal and requires all other raid people to be better geared than the server first clear groups and no they weren't we will take a class suboptimal to beat the rest course then some groups decided to try clear it with pld to pretend their formation beats server first best formations.

    The reason people took pld were to try and make a name for themselves taking a suboptimal class and yes for the average people that's fine but their ar many alite raid groups out there that go by time is money and need max efficiency clears and they are more than the minor 10% population se mentions.

    Now please all you trolls get your research and facts correct before saying a class better geared than the first server cleared classes is balanced.
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