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  1. #361
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    I want this. I like the Alphinaud look too, can we get model variations on the same race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
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    Pfft, so wait a min. You think Elins resemble children? They look like women with degenerative disc disease. Only a perverted teen and or a pedophilic mind would say they look like children. Btw, lalafells not only look like children, but they look like friggen babies.



    Yes rly, I went there. You can't possibly deny the fact that nearly every popular mmo has a race similar to children, but this game says F*** it, little baby geniuses everywhere. Call them potatoes, cabbage patch kids, Dolls or any other figment of your imagination, and you'll only be purposely dodging the fact that they look and sound( voice options ) like children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
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    You clearly do not know what degenerative disc disease is, but I've heard the disease excuse before many, many times. Please do tell me where you live that people who degenerative disc disease also are under the height of 120 cm, but also have a clearly underdeveloped body except for the oversexuliazed thighs. I'm sorry for having eyesight and having the ability to see that they clearly look like children as that seems to offend you. Lalafells also do not like babies or a child to me, but to each their own. They look like mini potato-men. I do find it funny how you're calling me someone with a "pedophilic mind" or a "perverted teen" (I'm not sure what pervert of any age would find those things attractive) for seeing the obvious, but then you proceed to do the same with Lalafell. Self projection, eh (I kid, I kid)?



    Yes, I can deny that actually. Almost every MMO I've played doesn't have a childlike race. WoW, Wildstar, Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, Vindictus and Path of Exile to list a few. Infact, the ones that do have childlike races are usually the ones that pander to that audience and usually have a cash shop selling them for real world money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HodgepodgeMcDodge View Post
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    Just to chime in; Paz is 17 during the time of those events (or at the very least, she definitely does not look like an under aged child), and while Chico is still definitely in the under-age side of the attention, everything that's happened to him is either off-screen or implied through recordings. How it's presented is a big factor when it comes to media attention as well as the medium that it's in, and it'd definitely be a big no-no if you could literally blow off their heads with a snipe rifle (which you can do to the adult soldiers mind you). Kojima himself had admitted that this could backfire tremendously and potentially ruin his career if it wasn't pulled off well (specifically if he had dipped into the gore/dismemberment aspect of the children). All of these examples are also in single player games which sets a limit to what the players run with.

    But I disgress that the presentation and the medium is the most important part. There are some lines that are acceptable to the public media, such as superdeformedl (lalafells, tatarus or gnomes). You can't really get away with something that objectionably looks like a healthy child and say they're actually 2x years of age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Yes, I can deny that actually. Almost every MMO I've played doesn't have a childlike race. WoW, Wildstar, Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, Vindictus and Path of Exile to list a few. Infact, the ones that do have childlike races are usually the ones that pander to that audience and usually have a cash shop selling them for real world money.
    Funny enough, a F2P-cash shop mmo I used to play was pretty much going all-in with the fanservice on female characters.
    http://elwiki.net/wiki/images/1/15/LuFull.png
    She's technically a ageless demon queen or something, but this is an example of what I mentioned earlier when considering what is a "child" or not. I'm pretty sure they're adding some costumes/swimsuits to sexualize her (and it is a korean mmo no less, so demographics are different as well), but it's also a game where it's not particularly violent to draw that sort of attention which is why they don't get media flak when it came overseas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dementiondrive View Post
    i went back to look at the NPC and circled around. the tail is more of a bunny like race.

    so maybe a tease on what a new race might be. add the small ones around and after awhile in time. they grow up and become the next race? just that unlike Au Ra, we do not know where these came from just yet.
    There's another Miqo'te Girl (named as such) in Mor Dhona who also has a short tail. They're Miqo'te children.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
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    DDS causes you to shrink in size, may not be much but its a reference to give an idea of what elins are like to me, ladies that are short.....with thunder thighs (sex sells apparently). I don't play Tera btw, and I'm not defending that race in particular , but calling them children is just awkward. And actually you haven't offended me, but I'm sure I must have offended you from clear misinformation; I don't think you have a pedophilic mind as you seem to believe Lalafells are potato people for some reason (maybe some other mental similarity) haha jk jk . Seems to me you don't really have a reasonable issue with the idea of a child race in XIV other than people might look at it a different way, like any other race in ANY game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Yes, I can deny that actually. Almost every MMO I've played doesn't have a childlike race. WoW, Wildstar, Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, Vindictus and Path of Exile to list a few. Infact, the ones that do have childlike races are usually the ones that pander to that audience and usually have a cash shop selling them for real world money.
    For mmos with childlike races, in which I'm sure you just called people who choose those races pedo's, but there is FFXI with Taru's, Wizardry, Blade and Soul, Dragon Sword and Phantasy Star Online 2 (with its extensive scale options), I believe there was something like that in Perfect World as well but can't remember. It seems more of a cliche now with child-like races, like anime jokes or something, so seeing this in XIV, I just don't see the wrong in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    But I disgress that the presentation and the medium is the most important part. There are some lines that are acceptable to the public media, such as superdeformedl (lalafells, tatarus or gnomes). You can't really get away with something that objectionably looks like a healthy child and say they're actually 2x years of age.
    Except you can



    For an 'unacceptable' trope, there sure does seem to be a lot of examples of it.

    Also, you can blow the child soldier's brains out. Kinda happens when you don't pay attention and hit the C4 button at the wrong time. Don't worry. You're treated to a game over.

    Also, again. XIV is not a super violent game. So.. Presentation, as you put. The kids would be fine here. If you think it is, please don't go play any of the games I mentioned. You wont be able to handle them.

    Again, people are blowing the the violence in XIV WAY, WAY out of proportion. You'd think everything was made of plastic, given how much everything 'hurts' us.
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    Oh yes, Rusty Hearts, Grand Chase and Elsword. I miss Rusty Hearts
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    Quote Originally Posted by HodgepodgeMcDodge View Post

    Again, people are blowing the the violence in XIV WAY, WAY out of proportion. You'd think everything was made of plastic, given how much everything 'hurts' us.
    Makes me wonder if some people can stand to see the scene in Kingdom Hearts 1 where [spoiler!!!]

    Sora stabs himself to save the princesses. I still don't know how that works btw.
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