Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[Crica]

Because it decreases the value of a level 50. It demerits the accomplishment. It diminishes the sense of achievement.

For who? Me? No.

I play games to have fun.

If I am having fun leveling a job, why would it matter to me if you are not leveling a job?

[User201109011315]

Anyway, immersion is such a vague term, and most of the time a thread like this all comes down to an argument of definitions. "My immersion is better than your immersion".

The thread title should be: "does instant transport effect the game's scope, sense of adventure, etc?"

[User201109011315]

For who? Me? No.

I play games to have fun.

If I am having fun leveling a job, why would it matter to me if you are not leveling a job?

Because I'm taking performance-enhancing drugs to best you in a sport you are playing. Anyway, I'm bored of talking about you now.

[Crica]

"does instant transport effect the game's scope, sense of adventure, etc?"

If you use it, I am sure it could.

If you don't use it, no.

You would be adventuring and seeing the scope of the game if you do not use it.

So my advice would be to not use it if you want "adventure and scope".

Why does that have to include making sure I can't use it, however?

[Crica]

Because I'm taking performance-enhancing drugs to best you in a sport you are playing. Anyway, I'm bored of talking about you now.

Sport?

I am not competing with you when I level my jobs.

I level jobs because it is fun for me.

You have nothing to do with the reason I level my jobs.

There is no sport if there is no competitor.

[Azurymber]

Anyway, immersion is such a vague term, and most of the time a thread like this all comes down to an argument of definitions. "My immersion is better than your immersion".

The thread title should be: "does instant transport effect the game's scope, sense of adventure, etc?"

lol yeah i didn't realize immersion would spark so much debate x_x

[Azurymber]

Sport?

I am not competing with you when I level my jobs.

I level jobs because it is fun for me.

You have nothing to do with the reason I level my jobs.

There is no sport if there is no competitor.

do you honestly think an MMO where everyone can just cheat and get anything would ever be a success?

Neuroscience has shown humans gain large amounts of satisfaction from being better than those around them (ingame terms: having e-peen gear). This is a large part of why capitalism works. So knowing that, do you really think people want a game where everyone is automatically and forever essentially equal?

[Crica]

lol yeah i didn't realize immersion would spark so much debate x_x

Anytime you want to take away an option from another person who wants to have access to the option, it will spark debate.

[Crica]

an MMO where everyone can just cheat

Cheat?

It would have to be against the rules of the game to be considered "cheating".

If the game rules stipulate players have the option to choose to level jobs themselves or to choose to have jobs instantly leveled by the game, there is no cheating when a player chooses either of those options.

[Azurymber]

Cheat?

It would have to be against the rules of the game to be considered "cheating".

If the game rules stipulate players have the option to choose to level jobs themselves or to choose to have jobs instantly leveled by the game, there is no cheating when a player chooses either of those options.

ok so let me put it another way, if FFXIV allowed everyone to choose their level and warp anywhere and stuff like that, do you think it would have players?