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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Is it going to stop me from leveling my own jobs if I want to? No.

    So why would I care?
    Because it decreases the value of a level 50. It demerits the accomplishment. It diminishes the sense of achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    Because it decreases the value of a level 50. It demerits the accomplishment. It diminishes the sense of achievement.
    For who? Me? No.

    I play games to have fun.

    If I am having fun leveling a job, why would it matter to me if you are not leveling a job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    For who? Me? No.

    I play games to have fun.

    If I am having fun leveling a job, why would it matter to me if you are not leveling a job?
    Because I'm taking performance-enhancing drugs to best you in a sport you are playing. Anyway, I'm bored of talking about you now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    Because I'm taking performance-enhancing drugs to best you in a sport you are playing. Anyway, I'm bored of talking about you now.
    Sport?

    I am not competing with you when I level my jobs.

    I level jobs because it is fun for me.

    You have nothing to do with the reason I level my jobs.

    There is no sport if there is no competitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Sport?

    I am not competing with you when I level my jobs.

    I level jobs because it is fun for me.

    You have nothing to do with the reason I level my jobs.

    There is no sport if there is no competitor.
    do you honestly think an MMO where everyone can just cheat and get anything would ever be a success?

    Neuroscience has shown humans gain large amounts of satisfaction from being better than those around them (ingame terms: having e-peen gear). This is a large part of why capitalism works. So knowing that, do you really think people want a game where everyone is automatically and forever essentially equal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    an MMO where everyone can just cheat
    Cheat?

    It would have to be against the rules of the game to be considered "cheating".

    If the game rules stipulate players have the option to choose to level jobs themselves or to choose to have jobs instantly leveled by the game, there is no cheating when a player chooses either of those options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Cheat?

    It would have to be against the rules of the game to be considered "cheating".

    If the game rules stipulate players have the option to choose to level jobs themselves or to choose to have jobs instantly leveled by the game, there is no cheating when a player chooses either of those options.
    ok so let me put it another way, if FFXIV allowed everyone to choose their level and warp anywhere and stuff like that, do you think it would have players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    do you really think people want a game where everyone is automatically and forever essentially equal?
    Ask them if you want to know.

    I don't play games to compete, I play them because I find the game play fun.

    So personally, I do not care about if others are equal to me in the game or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    do you honestly think an MMO where everyone can just cheat and get anything would ever be a success?

    Neuroscience has shown humans gain large amounts of satisfaction from being better than those around them (ingame terms: having e-peen gear). This is a large part of why capitalism works. So knowing that, do you really think people want a game where everyone is automatically and forever essentially equal?
    Now I've only asked for sources once in this thread and I was wrong for doing so, but you're making a giant appeal to authority here if you don't back up this statement with a source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Now I've only asked for sources once in this thread and I was wrong for doing so, but you're making a giant appeal to authority here if you don't back up this statement with a source.
    It's not so much they feel better by being ahead of those around them. What the most recent of studies I'm aware of show is that people don't want those directly beneath them to get ahead of where they are. In fact, a person would rather see someone far behind them get a little further ahead than the have the people directly beneath them catch a break.

    So if you reached rank 50 today and they announce that going from rank 1 to 20 just got easier, you don't really care. But if the announcement was that going from rank 40 to 50 just got easier, well, a picture says a thousand words:
    http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/k...ar_/fuuuu-.jpg

    Oh, and I even have a source for these crazy ideas I'm spouting:
    https://www.economist.com/node/21525851?frsc=dg
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