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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Actually, Zenimax is NOT a subsidiary from Bethesda.

    Zenimax Media owns both Zenimax Online Studios and Bethesda Softworks/Bethesda Game Studios. Among other things, id Software (Doom, Quake) IS a subsidiary of Bethesda.
    And Bethesda is more involved in making sure the lore stays on track, as it's a small part of a larger universe. Yes, ESO is fully TES canon. The lore is one of the single most important things to the Bethesda team and they didn't want ZOS mucking it up.

    And they quite frankly, have more money than you could remotely think of. Thing is, they're not publicly traded, so these things are not common knowledge.
    Well Google did me wrong then lol. Regardless Bethesda does have a huge focus on lore. Their gameplay in games has always been spotty, however they are generally beautiful and realized worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    Well Google did me wrong then lol. Regardless Bethesda does have a huge focus on lore. Their gameplay in games has always been spotty, however they are generally beautiful and realized worlds.
    I'm one of those crazy TES lore nerds.

    If you want to give yourself a headache, go take a look at some of the metaphysical stuff and how CHIM and Amaranth work as concepts as described by Michael Kirkbride(guy that pretty much *made* Morrowind what it is, lore wise). He no longer works with Bethesda, but still writes works on the lore, which by many are considered canon. And considering that some of his extraneous works have been referenced in games after the fact, it seems they respect his work as well.

    Summary: TES universe is the dream of a dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I'm one of those crazy TES lore nerds.

    If you want to give yourself a headache, go take a look at some of the metaphysical stuff and how CHIM and Amaranth work as concepts as described by Michael Kirkbride(guy that pretty much *made* Morrowind what it is, lore wise). He no longer works with Bethesda, but still writes works on the lore, which by many are considered canon. And considering that some of his extraneous works have been referenced in games after the fact, it seems they respect his work as well.

    Summary: TES universe is the dream of a dream.
    Wasn't CHIM like the person realizes Tamriel is actually in a game (though not exactly realize it is one) and becomes near god like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Wasn't CHIM like the person realizes Tamriel is actually in a game (though not exactly realize it is one) and becomes near god like?
    You realize you are in a dream, and can exert control over the dream.

    Amaranth is when you begin to dream your own dream, like the one you live in.

    CHIM is also explained on how to attain it in the 36 lessons of Vivec. Vivec has achieved CHIM. Whole thing is a cluster.
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