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  1. #391
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    Aiselia's Avatar
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    Now let me sum it up.

    Side A: WE NEED PARSERS SO WE CAN KICK PEOPLE FOR BEING BAD AND WASTING FIVE MORE MINUTES OF MY TIME
    Side B: But that's exactly the kind of treatment SE wants to avoid
    Side A: THEY SHOULD GET OVER IT GIVE US PARSERS SO WE CAN KICK PEOPLE FOR BEING BAD
    Side B: But you're just proving SE right by saying that
    Side A: I DON'T CARE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY AND ANYONE IT DOES IS WEAK GIMME PARSERS
    Side B: But -
    Side A: PARSERS DON'T MAKE PEOPLE JERKS, JERKS MAKE PEOPLE JERKS WE WILL NOT BE JERKS
    Side B: But you're already acting like -
    Side A: SEE? PEOPLE ARE JERKS ALREADY GIVE PARSERS
    Side B: But that's the kind of people that shouldn't get -
    Side A: LOL UR JUST SCARED UR DPS IS CRAP SO U WILL BE KICKED YOU TERRIBAD
    Side B: I'm a tank.

    Also something about people thinking a video of one person doing a handful of runs negates 10 years of stories of elitism encountered simply because of confirmation bias.
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  2. #392
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    karateorangutang's Avatar
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    I'm gonna invest in ConAgra stock soon because of all the Orville Redenbacher popcorn i'm gonna need if they ever do implement a parser.

    God I hope they do so I can watch this....
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  3. #393
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
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    Some guy who posted before you made the exact opposite of it. So by the statement of "the kind of treatment SE wants to avoid", you could make the same claim about the contrary.

    So here's a situation where a parser may or may not come in handy:
    There's a DPS check mechanic for a certain encounter, your party keeps wiping on it. Why, who and/or how?
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  4. #394
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    Why are you so afraid of people parsing you? Do you hate putting in effort? Are you incredibly lazy? Are you absolutely terrible?

    Let's completely ignore parsers, let's say your tank comes in, no tank stance, full str gear, never uses a cooldown, can't hold agro at all and refuses to listen to any advice, would you kick him?

    Let's say the healer just lets the tank die over and over, your group keeps wiping to the first trash pull and the healer doesn't improve after a couple wipes, do you kick him?

    If you say yes to either of these you are a huge hypocrite. Kicking someone for not performing their role shouldn't be exclusive to tanks and healers, if someone is underperforming so obviously that it is going to waste 10-15 minutes of not only my times, but 2 other peoples time as well why shouldn't we be allowed to kick them? Is it not the same thing?
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    Last edited by Gorlioliolio; 09-14-2015 at 11:38 PM.

  5. #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Some guy who posted before you made the exact opposite of it. So by the statement of "the kind of treatment SE wants to avoid", you could make the same claim about the contrary.

    So here's a situation where a parser may or may not come in handy:
    There's a DPS check mechanic for a certain encounter, your party keeps wiping on it. Why, who and/or how?
    Sastasha HM or Qarn HM for example, I have had dps who fail so incredibly hard you can't pass the dps checks on the 2nd bosses. I have kicked dps at these 2 bosses after wiping a couple times, trying to explain their basic rotations to the people, wiping again and eventually getting fed up. Was I wrong to kick them? I don't think so but all these people who seem to think that playing terribly and wasting other peoples time is their self entitled right by paying their subscription would disagree with me.
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  6. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Some guy who posted before you made the exact opposite of it.
    I know. That's why i did it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    Kicking someone for not performing their role
    People don't argue against parsers because people who auto-attack may get kicked. They argue against parsers because people who may be doing what they think is right may get kicked because some random person arbitrarily decides it's not good enough for them.
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    Last edited by Aiselia; 09-15-2015 at 12:04 AM.

  7. #397
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    I know. That's why i did it.


    People don't argue against parsers because people who auto-attack may get kicked. They argue against parsers because people who may be doing what they think is right may get kicked because some random person arbitrarily decides it's not good enough for them.
    To be contrarian instead of making a response?
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  8. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    trying to explain their basic rotations to the people
    This typically ends in "play it your way" or people getting mad and fighting back. Or just instantly leaving ... which is a good thing, come to think of it.
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  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    To be contrarian instead of making a response?
    What part of it deserved a response?
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  10. #400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    What part of it deserved a response?
    Well that's the most arrogant thing I've read today.

    So you're just trolling at this point?
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

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