Please reduce the Esotheric reward for the team that finished 2nd and 3rd

[Februs]

Not necessarily so much as the "two teams beating you" as much as it is "one team being fixated on you". It's what I hate about 3-way objective fights because you aren't necessarily being outplayed, but instead you're being encumbered by the third GC while the second one holds two or even three nodes for the first 10 minutes of the game.

I agree though, RNG doesn't account for majority losses, this is only really the case when you're on the final stretch (usually past 12 minutes) and all the teams are close together where the node spawns are the decider of who wins. Just eariler today in a 8v8v8, all three nodes spawn on the beach (we were caves) and an S rank being one of them. As much BS the RNG was, what's even more BS was the poor plays that followed from my team. We pulled back from a 350 point deficit and lost the game when we were at 300 points; but a terrible start like that in a 8v8v8 is incredibly detrimental.

Exactly right. The real enemy is two way locked fights in a three way environment. If two teams are completely ignoring the third, than it's not a proper match in terms of fair play, with some extreme and rare exceptions (Like when one of the two teams that are fighting is completely steamrolling the other, and actually ends up scoring more points off of kills than the third team is off of majority node captures).

That being said, I make a conscious effort to not lay too much of the blame at the feet of the three way gameplay. There are times when there is one team who is irrationally fixated on another and takes full blame for being idiots who are stacking the odds, certainly, but working around that disadvantage is part of the game mode. Sadly, I know that, deep down, a lot of the time the blame is shared 50/50 between the two teams who got stuck in a stalemate. We could have backed down, or, if we were good enough, we could have pushed through and beat them back. It's all about playing smarter or stronger. When two teams are locked together and are making no progress, they are doing neither.

It is difficult to come back from a large point difference that's established earlier in the match, but I often find the end of the match to be more detrimental than the beginning. That last node set can, and most often does, seal the deal for the winning team, but it can also be the most exciting couple of minutes in the match. I've seen a lot of last minute comebacks in the final set of node spawns, even round extensions into a completely new node sets, because the losing two teams pushed on the winning team in a last desperate attempt to pull off a win. When it happens, the match usually ends with an extremely close score (everyone within 700) and it makes for some damn good finishes.

[RiceisNice]

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I wouldn't be sour from "close games" that I get 2nd or 3rd, or losing a close game because of an irrational GC if second place really meant something. The process of ranking up is a long road, and its only really sped by first place (sometimes) because of the gaping difference between first and second. Second and third are incredibly close to each other in rewards (and first being the only thing that ever counts toward achievements), 2nd fails at even being a consolation and it's utterly demoralizing. I know its probably me and my misplaced goals of getting and ADS mount, but goddamnit.

[Februs]

I wouldn't be sour from "close games" that I get 2nd or 3rd, or losing a close game because of an irrational GC if second place really meant something. The process of ranking up is a long road, and its only really sped by first place (sometimes) because of the gaping difference between first and second. Second and third are incredibly close to each other in rewards (and first being the only thing that ever counts toward achievements), 2nd fails at even being a consolation and it's utterly demoralizing. I know its probably me and my misplaced goals of getting and ADS mount, but goddamnit.

I know exactly what you mean.When you get stuck in that match where you are consistently fighting against the same colour the whole time and, for whatever crazy reason, they just keep following you for the entire match it is infuriating. I've been there. It especially sucks, because, when one team is focusing you that hard, you can't attack third GC because you'd be willingly sandwiching yourself. So, you're essentially stuck. It gets to the point sometimes when your're nervous even when the fighting finally breaks, keeping your head on a swivel, because you're expecting them to come back and hit you again as soon as you make a move.

The exp thing is frustrating too. Challenge logs help, but the exp discrepancy between 1st/2nd/3rd is crippling. Not to mention the added dissatisfaction of losing (1st or nothing is also a pride issue for me). Achievements just make that worse. There are times I look at that ADS mount and just want to give up. If I wasn't in for PvP for the fun of it, I'd probably have flipped table by now.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

If you want to remove Esos. First explain why my hard earned PvP rewards are something I can't even use?

Sure, Remove ESOs. However also remove "Rank" requirement from gear and raise the cost.

[Februs]

If you want to remove Esos. First explain why my hard earned PvP rewards are something I can't even use?

Sure, Remove ESOs. However also remove "Rank" requirement from gear and raise the cost.

I'm getting a real kick out of you saying that you have "hard earned" PvP rewards, yet you haven't earned the rank to use them. If you can't use your PvP gear because of rank restrictions then you haven't "earned" anything. You just paid for it. Congrats on spending your money/marks, a talent that anyone in the entire game can do regardless of effort or work.

Asking to equip or glamour that gear before you've truly earned it through getting the exp for ranking up is like like saying we should be able to equip Item level 200 gear on level 1 characters, because we "earned" it by paying for it. That's cute, really. Maybe they should remove levels in this game entirely and focus solely on transactions.

[Eul]

If you want to remove Esos. First explain why my hard earned PvP rewards are something I can't even use?

Sure, Remove ESOs. However also remove "Rank" requirement from gear and raise the cost.

Did you know that back then I use all my Wolf Mark before I could use Animal Set to buy ilv90 accessories for desynthesis? Why don't you try it instead whining about can't use gear for rank 46-50? Maybe you could get bunch gil from Battle Demimateria III

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Did you know that back then I use all my Wolf Mark before I could use Animal Set to buy ilv90 accessories for desynthesis? Why don't you try it instead whining about can't use gear for rank 46-50? Maybe you could get bunch gil from Battle Demimateria III

This is why the game has such an RMT problem.

I think I would rather do something else with my time, like work an actual job that makes me money.

I play games to have fun, and get rewarded for my time spent doing things.


Most of the game is pretty good, you grind and you get the gear you want to get. PvP however? Just badly designed. Period.

[Eul]

This is why the game has such an RMT problem.

How the hell this is become RMT problem? It's benefit when your wolf mark is full but you don't know what to do with it. Again, you just complain something void.

[Elim]

How the hell this is become RMT problem?

"x and x game feature is the reason we have a RMT problem" seems to be the popular saying on the forum this month.

[Wetea]

"x and x game feature is the reason we have a RMT problem" seems to be the popular saying on the forum this month.

Popular sayings on the forum this month is the reason we have RMT problems.