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    Elazu's Avatar
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    Here's a fun fact: Calling people out on their bad dps doesn't make one a jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    Here's a fun fact: Calling people out on their bad dps doesn't make one a jerk.
    Kind of depends on the tone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    Here's a fun fact: Calling people out on their bad dps doesn't make one a jerk.
    Yes it does. Calling people out indicates telling people they suck, L2P, etc...

    Pointing out areas for improvement and offering constructive advice does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benolan View Post
    Yes it does. Calling people out indicates telling people they suck, L2P, etc...
    Since English isn't my first language, I thought maybe I'm using 'call somebody out' differently, so I checked a dictionary.

    This is not at all what it indicates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benolan View Post
    Yes it does. Calling people out indicates telling people they suck, L2P, etc...

    Pointing out areas for improvement and offering constructive advice does not.
    Calling someone out means pointing out something negative about them. It doesn't have to be done in a dickish tone.
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Calling someone out means pointing out something negative about them. It doesn't have to be done in a dickish tone.
    Let me tell you a story:

    Waaaaay back when I was a young gladiator lad I was DF'ing halatali for the first time. I had tanked for a long time in FFXI and thought I knew everything. When we are pulling mobs I was not using flash enough to keep hate on AoE damage bursts from the mages in the party. This led to a "you suck tank" style rebuf that was greatly unappreciated. However, in that same instance the healer ( a higher level tank) politely pointed out what I should be doing. It was simple advice that I probably could have figured out on my own over time, but I still think kindly of that guy to this day. I have on many occasions in content I don't know been asked to do things differently, it's always been more of a help than a hindrance.

    As long as people are going into content with a higher than 3rd grade mentality then you should be giving advice if you are the more experienced one in the dungeon or raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post

    As long as people are going into content with a higher than 3rd grade mentality then you should be giving advice if you are the more experienced one in the dungeon or raid.
    Wouldn't be surprised if many people gave up on giving advice, because a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."
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    Shandraya Heavenswind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if many people gave up on giving advice, because a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."
    Wouldn't be surprised if many didn't even bother trying to give advice in the first place because they assume a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if many didn't even bother trying to give advice in the first place because they assume a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."
    I have found that 95% of the time, the person accepts the advice as long as it's said in a polite/sugarcoated way. You can't always work everything around the worst of the worst of the community or you end up with Nintendo-style online communication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if many didn't even bother trying to give advice in the first place because they assume a lot of times the response will be "**** you, I play how I want."
    Like how you assume that parsers will somehow make people jerks!
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