Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[Seshayn]

Ok spooky. I won't claim to know warrior, as I abhor playing it so I will ask you, as you seem to be fairly knowledgeable.

Aoe pack of 8 mobs. From the tornado path prior to the first boss, but after the first 5.

What is the difference between a 60 second fight with a warrior in Full Vit and Defiance, vs a warrior in full Str and... whatever it is they do. That number will be A. Not in Damage per Second, in flat numerical numbers.

Now I want you to take a healer, lets say WHM, and factor in the amount of dps they can do on the same pack, while healing. Again, flat numbers. This number is B.

is A > B in and of itself? If you cannot be 100% sure that the answer is yes, I call into question anyone using STR gear for an aoe pack, as it is strongest on warriors.

As I stated earlier, my guilds healers found no time to dps during any pull yesterday when they were doing separate roulette's with various pugged STR warriors. For the sake of argument, even though I know better, let's call these healers average.

Again, if you bring your own healer or have one confident enough in his own abilities to tell you to don your str gear, that is between you, them, and the twelve.

If you cant keep a ilvl190+ with str acc tank alive during expert i would highly suggest the healer to get good.
Seriously the hp you have at this level with full str acc was the hp We had when We were arround ilvl 160 ish and the dungeon were already easy

Nothing more to add really.

Ahh yes, the old "git gud" argument, commonly used by trash not worth anyone's time although I'm sure you are the shining exemption from that rule. Please, tell us more that we may bask in the glorious presence of the douchwalker (see, it's like how daywalkers are the exception to sunlight killing vampires, the douchewalker is one who can walk amongst douche without being one. Am I using the right font to convey sarcasm? Should I switch to comic sans?)

Did a fly by on that one. My response was to the fact you said that person was wrong about the HP number difference. Which it is probably what they have seen. Not everyone is wearing the same gear or what have you. Just saying that they noted a difference in 3k HP in which you claim is wrong when in fact it is not wrong. It maybe what they have on their character where I see my difference of 2214, thats not wrong it is the difference we currently have, others will have different numbers.

yes, and while what you say is true, I provided a very specific mathematical example on my findings. I also would like to note that while the difference between your full vit and str set is 2214, at that item level, did you account for your 35 points being in STR for either set? Were you taking into account a full 5 STR or VIT right side, or were you mixing and matching? based on your lodestone page, it seems to me your difference is based on STR Stats and a 4/1 Str to Vit accesory grouping. meaning your actual difference in STR to VIT puts you above that 3k threshold at a gear level I personally find solidly below average.