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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    all your arguments are basically that there doesn't need to be any feel to the worldAbsolutely wrong. You just want them to be that because you don't want that. I don't want that either. You want my arguments to represent that so that you can say that you want a feel to the world. My argument is that there is a feel to the world and that your concept of a "feel" will actually end up hurting player population, completely reducing any possible feel there could be. Also, all of your concepts can be done in a single player game. Airship ride cutscene, battling in a party, not having access to certain areas. These don't create any "feel". You just think they do and that's where you're stuck. You need to think beyond the concepts of a single player game. You need to understand that there are people with lives that don't want to mold their lives around the game but would rather mold the game around their lives and utilize their in game time with the people that they've met in the game rather than waiting to fulfill those mutual goals with them.. Its ok to be the only one on an airshipHave you played XI? . Its ok to have parts of the world dead cuz its copy and pasteI never said that! You are so frustrating. I said the opposite of that. I said that's why the world is dead not that it's okay. Please use critical thinking skills *while* you read.. People can choose to go to places and level inefficiently if they wantYes. I choose to level inefficiently because raptor grinds are boring as hell. I'd prefer fun or efficiency anyday. Where are you going with this? I've never even so much as indirectly suggested this. I don't even think that could be a red herring, that's a complete fabrication., etc.

    Click my guide thingys in my sig. I've been to -every- zone in the game, -every- node, prettty well every little corner and niche spot on every map regardless of 1-shot kill mobs being there.So you're an immersionist. Why must you force others to do that as well. When i made that guide 95% of the time i was the only person in the area i was experimenting with AND saw -no one- for hoursSounds like my XI days, specifically on the airship. Your suggestions do not fix the problem you have. Consider other options. Stop twisting my words..

    Im not saying take away optionsSo let's keep the option for people to utilize an instant airship for when they run out of anima. Awesome! Then we agree since doing otherwise would literally be taking away options., im saying streamline the game to create an experience rather than rely on the players to take the initiative and create the experience themselves.

    That means
    1. when your levelling you should see people running by you (even if on chocobo) occasionallyThis requires population. And chocobos are going to be implemented. The current direction of the game does not leave this out. I have not suggested the opposite.
    2. you should have to touch leves before you can warp there, and journeys to leves should be somewhat challengingUnnecessary for immerison.
    3. there should be a sense of accomplishment when you level up, like it makes the rest of the game more accessible to you, etc.Instances have rank and party member minimum requirements. Exploration and closing off whole areas in not necessary and hurts the amateur explorer. Would you prefer rank capped battles? I know a lot of people complained about that.
    4. you should be able to partake in activities which proactively allow players to communicate and form friendshipsAlready there. Your suggestions above are not necessary in order to foster this type of atmosphere although you do need people to accomplish this goal. If you motivate people to log off of your game an never come back, that'll hurt your chances of experiencing them more than if you let them play the game how they choose.

    if you don't want a game like that and just want an instance-fest or no world why are you playing an MMO?I never said I wanted an "instance-fest". I never said I didn't want "no world". We have a game already that allows people to experience it at their leisure and I get great satisfaction from all the little details and admonish my experiences knowing I made them all out of my own free choice and it wasn't spoon fed to me. You yourself have admitted that you've experienced almost all of the known world. Assuredly there will be more to open up when more content is released but my suggestions revolve around additional content while yours revolve around social engineering. why not just go play oblivion?Or I could play this game, which already has it, and will implement even more. My suggestions aren't ruining your game. On the contrary yours are ruining a larger population of potential players by forcing this into a niche market that it's already in. The concept of an MMO is to socialize and meet people and do things together.Which I do. Do I need to list my varied friends form all around the world again from several different cultural, ethnic, and social backgrounds that I met specifically in XIV? None of my FFXI friends are on my server. Not "warp hereSweet. Better than the alternative of "walk there". At least in real life I get a benefit from doing so., kill nm for 5 minGood luck on drops, warp back to citybetter than walking, spam normal synth for 5 hoursOr do leves"but I can do that too
    You say you've experienced all this stuff yet, you claim that all this stuff is not in the game. You are contradicting yourself. You just want SE to implement social engineering mechanics so that people play how you want them to play.

    I rarely do raptor grinds, but I like the option.
    I don't grind crafts, but I like the option.
    I don't always warp places, but I like the option.
    I don't always fight in instances, but I like the option.

    This is my stance. You say I've got a different one even one more time you are officially a liar and your opinion should not be considered as genuine. You respond one more time with a straw man and we're done with this and I'm blacklisting you. You're a brick wall.

    Before you formulate a rebuttal please familiarize yourself with this website:

    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

    Your constant use of misrepresenting others is beyond frustrating and is borderline trolling.
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    Last edited by Rhomagus; 09-10-2011 at 11:11 AM.