So, pretty dead lately....

[Nadirah]

Again, this is an issue SE needs to resolve.
And when I mentioned gear procs and whatnot those should ideally be available through means other than dungeons. Like Gold Saucer gear for example. Say there's "Godbert's Gloves of Healing" that give "+10% HP restored when using Cure II/Adloquiem/Benefic II". Make them cost 150,000 MGP, add in the aforementioned Battle Arena/combat GATEs and BAM, there's something for WHM and AST-players to do in their spare time.

You mean "is required for healers to do in their spare time".

That's what we mean by "wary about things that will be mandatory.

There's a reason why in WoW, the class gear sets, they're used over better itemized pieces. Those bonuses do things like that. And they become *mandatory*.

The legendary cloak from last expansion, the ring from this expansion. They have useful procs. They become mandatory.

[Synestra]

I feel the people who say that there's "so much content to do" and that they "haven't run out of content yet" only play for 30 mins to maybe an hour ish a day, when some of us, even with work and school, can still play for a good 4-5 hours a day

Well i play atleast 12h 7days in a week(unemployed no-lifing ftw)and there is still alot to do, raiding takes few hours tops on floors that are already on farm and rest of the weekdays are for pure progression. Crafing and Gathering atm are HUGE time sinks due SE making them pretty damn HC in HW, also PvP is something you can sink shit tons of time if you so choose(this is where i cap my ESO's while owning scrubberinos). Now if i liked leveling there would be even more timesink but cba level jobs i have no plans to play ever, still need to farm those new TT cards so theres that too.

Soon we will get airship stuff that adds more battle and gathering content so i wonder how the hell i can find time for that aswell >_>

[Obysuca]

also PvP is something you can sink shit tons of time if you so choose(this is where i cap my ESO's while owning scrubberinos).

Depending on your GC :P I know Flames have over an hour wait just to get into a single match (pvp ls for flames, everyone even in premades sit for over an hour) while a FC member in twin adder sits for less than 5 mins

Less than 5 min wait for a 15 min dungeon and 40 eso > an hour wait for however long of a match for 20 eso

[Nadirah]

Well i play atleast 12h 7days in a week(unemployed no-lifing ftw)and there is still alot to do, raiding takes few hours tops on floors that are already on farm and rest of the weekdays are for pure progression. Crafing and Gathering atm are HUGE time sinks due SE making them pretty damn HC in HW, also PvP is something you can sink shit tons of time if you so choose(this is where i cap my ESO's while owning scrubberinos). Now if i liked leveling there would be even more timesink but cba level jobs i have no plans to play ever, still need to farm those new TT cards so theres that too.

Soon we will get airship stuff that adds more battle and gathering content so i wonder how the hell i can find time for that aswell >_>

The only thing time sinky in your list there is crafting and gathering.


So basically, I dont like those, so I'm SOL for things to do.

I'm currently on Battle.net talking to a few friends of mine that are playing the new D3 season *Because* there's nothing left to do. They're burnt out on Savage and a lack of progression, which is coupled by a few of them not giving a rat's arse about Savage in the first place, and it's summing up to be a huge pile of suck.

[Synestra]

So basically, I dont like those, so I'm SOL for things to do.

Well i guess its your loss then.

PS: On savage part i can only say "git gud" ^^

[Mikhaill]

I'm not going into a big spheel about every thing but my problem is:
They are literally going the same route as 2.0 and that's not a good sign.
It's time to step out the box and stop playing it safe. They're probably scared to take a right turn sometimes because of the Diabolic fail that was 1.0.
I am not trying to doom and gloom anyone, and of course there are plenty of people who are still playing...but some people
are so tired of logging on once a week just to gear up for big reason and log off. I myself have not logged in a month.
But I mean we're at a lull and 3.1 is coming out soon but still...
They desperately need a new system to shake the pot a bit. 3.x may make a lot of surprises so I will not knock them down yet, but if they continue
this same silly route in 4.0 + I dunno if I'll stick around much longer. I hope we'll see a lot of improvements later on.
So fingers crossed.

[Synestra]

while a FC member in twin adder sits for less than 5 mins. Less than 5 min wait for a 15 min dungeon and 40 eso > an hour wait for however long of a match for 20 eso

Umm.. Change GC then so you dont need to whine about being forced to do those 2 dungeons? Only thing i agree with you after reading most posts is that there could be a 2nd raid instance due lockouts and battle arena in GS, NM's you suggested will be same shit as hunts so no ty, bosses in major cities will also be lag/zergfest so no ty to that too. NPC protecting sounded dull as fuck so no ty and only worthy open-world content is either oldschool mob farming or pvp but those are relics from the past nowdays.

[Synestra]

They desperately need a new system to shake the pot a bit.

New this new that but no any examples, what is this "new" so many peoples want in this thread? Raiding will always be "kill boss, collect loot, get out" so how that can be improved/changed? i honestly have noidea. Airship stuff in totally new feature that includes battle content so that could be one i guess, but personally i cant really think anything new they could add this game that also increases character power.

So instead demanding something new feel free to give suggestion as long as its not openworld content, because that will end being a zergfest just like hunts and nobody likes that(atleast no sane person likes that kind of shit).

[Obysuca]

Umm.. Change GC then so you dont need to whine about being forced to do those 2 dungeons? Only thing i agree with you after reading most posts is that there could be a 2nd raid instance due lockouts and battle arena in GS, NM's you suggested will be same shit as hunts so no ty, bosses in major cities will also be lag/zergfest so no ty to that too. NPC protecting sounded dull as fuck so no ty and only worthy open-world content is either oldschool mob farming or pvp but those are relics from the past nowdays.

>_> Again, different au ra who suggested nms and battle arena lol

[Mikhaill]

So instead demanding something new feel free to give suggestion as long as its not openworld content.

>Tells us to give suggestion, and then tells us don't lol.

Blitzball and Bliztball tournaments.
Sphere Breaks or any fun minigames that isn't a damn chore like TT turned out to be.
NPC interactions [Gain friendship points or something for cool gifts/boosts.]
Instead of the same sh!tty modes of PvP, implement this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Earth:_Zero
Some sort of FATE type of thing for crafter/gathering. - Fun events where you make stuff for people like a wedding for an NPC.
Raids that feels bigger than what they are so more 24 man if not bigger raids.
Hard more dungeons that's actually hard.
I would say open world instances but this games combat kinda sucks compared to TERA, so open world instances and stuff won't be as fun as that game.
Retainer/Chocobo storyline/dungeon or something Idk, more interactions with your retainer and Chocobo?
Housing could be fixed...

It also doesn't always have to be about battle but more side things to do as well.


I usually don't give idea's because people are so friggin' quick to shoot people down and insult them.
Then you wonder why you're stuck in same game Limbo because people are so content with what we got and find doing FATE's in Moogle Hell exhilarating.
I can't stomach FATE's any longer. I can't. I do a bit for the sake of waiting for a dungeon but waiting over half an hour as a DPS and doing 20 mins of FATE's
I want to log off and cry myself to sleep. In the morning I'll contact my physicist about the god dog Wyvern's that haunt my dreams as they terroizing lost Moogles
over
and over
and
over.