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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Only people bored are people who say that gear progression is the only form of content and that is just boring. The only Free Companies that are dying are the hardcore raiding focus companies while the large casual free companies have 70 players online during peak hours and a minmum of 30 players on during low points. There is a lot of variety of content in this game its just people choosing not to do it. Casuals are the life blood of an MMO and there the one where most of the developer resources are focused on while hardcore players get the rest of the resources since they represent less than 10% of the game. Anyways for every hard core player that leaves they're replaced by 10 casual players.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Only people bored are people who say that gear progression is the only form of content and that is just boring. The only Free Companies that are dying are the hardcore raiding focus companies while the large casual free companies have 70 players online during peak hours and a minmum of 30 players on during low points. There is a lot of variety of content in this game its just people choosing not to do it. Casuals are the life blood of an MMO and there the one where most of the developer resources are focused on while hardcore players get the rest of the resources since they represent less than 10% of the game. Anyways for every hard core player that leaves they're replaced by 10 casual players.
    I can't remember where it was exactly but it's been shown that whilst the hardcore playerbase isn't directly worth much money to the developers they have a massive influence on the more casual players. If you think about it, the hardcore players are the ones that spend the most time on these forums and go on about the game constantly to friends. The entire perception of this game's community is based on its more hardcore members. If they get bored and leave lots of more casual players often follow suit. A game with no hardcore players has no central 'rock' in its community and the entire social side of the game falls apart. There is a reason developers still cater to hardcore players with raids and it's not just because they think it's a nice thing to do. Casuals are the lifeblood of the game, perhaps, but the hardcore players are its beating heart. It's a balancing act for sure but dismissing hardcore players' value to the game in purely monetary terms isn't quite fair.

    I no longer consider myself a hardcore player anyway and most of my FC is quite casual about the game now. Most of us are bored to some degree and this is a very different kind of boredom to what we felt prior to the expansion. Between 2.X patches we were bored because we'd exhausted the content. Now we're bored because all the content just feels like more of the same and that is a much more worrying trend...
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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I can't remember where it was exactly but it's been shown that whilst the hardcore playerbase isn't directly worth much money to the developers they have a massive influence on the more casual players. If you think about it, the hardcore players are the ones that spend the most time on these forums and go on about the game constantly to friends. The entire perception of this game's community is based on its more hardcore members. If they get bored and leave lots of more casual players often follow suit. A game with no hardcore players has no central 'rock' in its community and the entire social side of the game falls apart. There is a reason developers still cater to hardcore players with raids and it's not just because they think it's a nice thing to do. Casuals are the lifeblood of the game, perhaps, but the hardcore players are its beating heart. It's a balancing act for sure but dismissing hardcore players' value to the game in purely monetary terms isn't quite fair.

    I no longer consider myself a hardcore player anyway and most of my FC is quite casual about the game now. Most of us are bored to some degree and this is a very different kind of boredom to what we felt prior to the expansion. Between 2.X patches we were bored because we'd exhausted the content. Now we're bored because all the content just feels like more of the same and that is a much more worrying trend...
    There are different versions of Hardcore players, There the raiders and people that need to be best at everything in the game as soon as it comes out (the ones that get bored) and then there is the players that log in everyday regardless of what going on and still get done what first group does just in longer time frame. The second group of people usually just dump them into the casual group.
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
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    Eh I do all the content in this game (Crafting, Gathering, Raiding, Fishing, own my own FC and large house and everything) and I still find it lacking in terms of variety of content. Let's get real, the zones are massive, gorgeous and have tons of potential, there is just not much to do in them. Needs way more open world PVE content. Majority of my friends feel the same way and unsubbed
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Raiden
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Only people bored are people who say that gear progression is the only form of content and that is just boring. The only Free Companies that are dying are the hardcore raiding focus companies while the large casual free companies have 70 players online during peak hours and a minmum of 30 players on during low points. There is a lot of variety of content in this game its just people choosing not to do it. Casuals are the life blood of an MMO and there the one where most of the developer resources are focused on while hardcore players get the rest of the resources since they represent less than 10% of the game. Anyways for every hard core player that leaves they're replaced by 10 casual players.
    My FC is nowhere near a "hardcore raiding" FC, and we have maybe 5 people on during peak times now.

    Everyone's hit 60 and got bored.
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Midgardsormr
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    My FC is nowhere near a "hardcore raiding" FC, and we have maybe 5 people on during peak times now.

    Everyone's hit 60 and got bored.
    This is how mine is too :/ and judging from looking at other people's FCs, most likely theirs too.
    We had a bunch of people come back for HW, they got about 55-60, then quit again. We're midcore, we do raids but no where near super hardcore all the time raiding and we also only have about 4-5 on now. Looking at other FCs and my FC from experience, most FCs had 50+ on daily in 2.0, by 2.1 a majority of FCs were down to ~30 on, by 2.2 it was lower and by 2.3, most FCs barely had 10 on during peak hours, now in most FCs, I rarely even see 5 on at the most, even in those big 100+ member ones. That's saying something about the game. Theres also zero staying power, since the game encourages you to be solo and not make friends.
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