Theres a thing called anima

[DNO]

I can't even start to begin where you got off on that tangent. More anima makes things easier to do plain and simple, yes getting to a place takes some effort wether it's your or the poor sap you /follow and AFK on.

but you can not prove its hard you can only prove it takes longer

Longer does NOT equal hard. that is a fact. and the only fact in this whole debate.

[AmyRae]

I think it's quite small to make FFXI the standard for FFXIV (and only those years in FFXI that you particularly liked, not those years it was "unreasonable").

The fact is, there aren't enough FFXI players in the world to FFXIV a success. You're going to have learn to share with others, particularly those Final Fantasy fans who thought FFXI was a waste of time (or simply were too young to be involved at the time, but who are familiar with the relative ease of other MMOs).

FFXI did make you wait to take an airship and wait even more to ride it. But even in FFXI, you see a repudiation of the system. Most airships run empty or with only a few people in it at best. Even among FFXI players, most people would prefer to use instant teleports, especially as to not waste their time (or their friends' time) to get to their destinations, not a convoluted journey full of wait times.

Airship travel will likely have a bit of a wait for the ship. That's more than enough of a displacement. Wait times just aren't fun for anyone (all the thrills of standing in a line!). The journey itself may be fun for a playthrough or two, but after that, it's just punitive and pointless to most people.

Fact is, you can still move about the world as slowly and "immersively" as you like. They will add the slow version of the airship ride just for you. But I'm willing to bet even the ones griping now that travel is too fast will just take the shortest, fastest options like the rest of us. You've given yourselves away just by how you act in FFXI.

[Keruvinde]

not to throw a wrench in the fighting gears...but...

from the letter f the producer "Airship voyages themselves will take only mere seconds, though there will be sweet little cutscenes accompanying departures and arrivals."


so as for taking time/instant...if its only a few seconds and not minutes....whats the deal O.o

[Jynx]

Longer does NOT equal hard. that is a fact. and the only fact in this whole debate.

To be blunt...why doesn't longer=harder? Technically it's requiring your focus for a longer period of time, if you really want to argue silly semantics like that.

Your snipit about "Some players want to rush content" you are aware this is a terrible thing right? This is what gets people to play a patch for a week and then shut the game down until the next patch. Do you really want to live the game on a patch by patch basis?

[DNO]

To be blunt...why doesn't longer=harder? Technically it's requiring your focus for a longer period of time, if you really want to argue silly semantics like that.

Your snipit about "Some players want to rush content" you are aware this is a terrible thing right? This is what gets people to play a patch for a week and then shut the game down until the next patch. Do you really want to live the game on a patch by patch basis?

stop saying things i never said. i never said i want a patch to be done in a week i said faster travel does NOT equal harder.

If the people want to rush content and thats what THEY want to do then they will do it in ff14 or leave and do it in another game. My point is if SE wants a large fanbase you can not ONLY make a game with time sinks (ff11 Pre Asea) but you need a game that caters to BOTH the harcore and the casuals. (WoW. and thats why they are number 1 by over 10 million subs and ff11 strugges to keep 500k subs)

So in closing if adding an option (You getting angry about an option for holy's sake) to skip an airship ride pleases the masses then so be it.

[Etienn]

Right, we're selfishly giving you the option you prefer.
That makes so much sense.

actually you're worse everything should not be handed to you, full immersion ride like ferry, just a bit longer. it's fair should be no option to skip.

[Etienn]

To be blunt...why doesn't longer=harder? Technically it's requiring your focus for a longer period of time, if you really want to argue silly semantics like that.

Your snipit about "Some players want to rush content" you are aware this is a terrible thing right? This is what gets people to play a patch for a week and then shut the game down until the next patch. Do you really want to live the game on a patch by patch basis?

Would you like some choco'late?

[Jynx]

So in closing if adding an option (You getting angry about an option for holy's sake) to skip an airship ride pleases the masses then so be it.

How can you assume the "Masses" want this? We can't speak for the rest of the players in the game and it's pretty much a 50/50 split between our two sides of the fence.

I never "Put words in your mouth" I asked you a legitimate question, if content is at the fingertips of everyone adding more content wont do much to add longevity to the game if it's completed in less than a week. I never said you wanted patches on a weekly basis.

I'm just pointing out the flaws in the direction that this type of pandering can lead too.

I'm not angry about the situation at all (I'm not sure why you think I am) I actually relish being able debate about this too see both sides of the fence. While I may be on one side of it doesn't mean I'm angry that another person doesn't agree with me. Only a child would get upset at someone who doesn't agree with them.

Too a further extent, FFXIV is not WoW and will never have the same player base as WoW. They could have released the game and called it WoW 2.0 and still wouldn't have the same player base as WoW. Blizzard is allready developing a new MMO to capture their audience because the crux of their system is that WoW can't hold players for much longer (3 more years tops before it starts to spiral) Hell it's allready loosing subscribers overall and their newest expansion has seen the least sales of the series so far.

FFXIV is not FFXI, while that may be I'm allowed to ask for a similar feel if thats what I want from the game, I don't speak for everyone else I speak for myself. I think you need to stop trying to speak for the general populace by stating it's what "The masses" want. You have as much idea of what they want as I do.

Start posting for yourself and not the community, all of my ideas and threads are thing I think would make the game better not what I think the community wants. Only a naive fool would try and make himself out to represent the games population. I can't speak for the silent players of the game, they have every right to speak up if they want too just as much as I do.

[Rokien]

This is why I haven't finished the story line missions, quest missions, killed nms(don't even know where half of them are). Haven't done the rank 50 dungeon yet. Ya, I could have done all those easy, in a few days. But I'm creating a backlog of stuff to do. That instant airship will make it where I can finish all those quicker than before. I don't want that, I want to be able to do something new each time I log on, and I can. I can run through areas, run into an NM and be like "OOOO NM MUST KILL". I can do a quest here and there and when all my friends are rank 50 I can do the rank 50 dungeon with them and get all the cool armor. I have a reason to log on each day, most don't. That number will be even greater with the instant airship rides.

[DeadRiser]

What you do not understand is some people WANT to rush content. that is what is fun to them. If everyone had one and only one way to play a game with no choices it would fail. Let them rush content. Its not your problem worry about yourself. Do the content how YOU want to do it. Then you will be much happier.

The reason this debate is fail is becasue SE is giving you the option of doing things the way you like it BUT you are still mad because SE is also giving others the option to play it the way THEY like and your angry about it.

Get over yourself.

A personal attack of get over yourself? Seriously? Are we in high school? I want people to stay in this game, like Jynx said and I was going to bring up, longer than a patch by patch thing and finishing content too fast is not going to help. This has nothing to do with what "I WANT" but more of how it won't benefit the game in the long run