Heavensword 2* Red Scrip Crafting Rotation

[Katlyna]

Everything else aside, this should not be the case. When you use MaMa for 1 star or 2 star you get in a free CZ, which essentially reduces the cost to 6. There shouldn't be any extra CP cost associated with its use in 1 or 2 star crafts. MaMa>CZ>FS>CZ>IQ

The difference in CP use from Mama vs the MuMe I proposed is actually in using three vs four SH. That's where the extra CP is saved. Don't get me wrong I've used both rotations and both have their ups and downs. I can easily see why people would prefer Mama. For instance one unlisted benefit of MaMa is if you accept being short on your flawless synths (and need to use an extra Careful synth) which tends to occur if you load up on ToTs during your flawelss synths (picking up one or two). I find myself doing this in 1 star synths when using MaMa.

I flip back and forth between the two trying to find if I fundamentally find one more successful than the other and I haven't seen much difference.

[Rath]

For instance one unlisted benefit of MaMa is if you accept being short on your flawless synths (and need to use an extra Careful synth) which tends to occur if you load up on ToTs during your flawelss synths (picking up one or two). I find myself doing this in 1 star synths when using MaMa.

This is one of the places our thinking differs. I generally take at least 1 ToT during my flawless synths. If I take two toT and fail 2 FS, I will just use one PT/BT and change my cs2 into SS. This allows me to keep all 11 HT in my rotation.

The only time I actually drop a HT is if I fail 3 FS and get 0 ToT procs prior to my last HT. So far this has not happened. Doesn't mean it will not, but I have planned for its eventuality.

[Katlyna]

The only time I actually drop a HT is if I fail 3 FS and get 0 ToT procs prior to my last HT. So far this has not happened. Doesn't mean it will not, but I have planned for its eventuality.

No your logic is great on what you're applying. Unfortunately my experience so far has been if I take one ToT proc I have always managed to end up with 8 or less FS... so I've been accepting all ToTs I can get. This could be rotten luck though. So my personal experience has been either take the ToTs or go for the 9 successes.

Note I run into a similar problem when I'm greedy with my MuMe rotation and use precise touch during the Rapid Touch sequence (just don't do it).

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But on the bright side using both rotations and proper HQ components I still haven't NQed a two star end good. (I do need to stop being lazy on my 1 star synths though... using no HQ ingredients and then having super terrible synths).

[Rath]

But on the bright side using both rotations and proper HQ components I still haven't NQed a two star end good. (I do need to stop being lazy on my 1 star synths though... using no HQ ingredients and then having super terrible synths).

Heh, I forgot to IQ and failed...I got to 26% due to an ex on my GS advanced touch...but ya...don't forget your IQ lol. At least it was only a ring.

Also, with MaMa..do not take a ToT after PbP until SH drops. This guarantees 3 of your FS.

[Katlyna]

Heh, I forgot to IQ and failed...I got to 26% due to an ex on my GS advanced touch...but ya...don't forget your IQ lol. At least it was only a ring.

Also, with MaMa..do not take a ToT after PbP until SH drops. This guarantees 3 of your FS.

I pulled that same IQ mess on a Thav top... and frowned after. And yup I fumbled up two of my MaMa doing exactly what you listed, ToTing during SH (actually my ding dong butt was precise touching without IQ up). I'm so used to Precising during those early procs I slipped right too it lol. Good tips none the less ;-)