I really dislike what they have done to white mage

[Muahbec]

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Sure it gets on my nerves, i'm tired of seeing a job who already have everything to shine like crazy asking for more.

The "lb3 on a 30s CD" was an irony in case you haven't understood
Btw divine seal is a 30% buff not a 20% buff, again, the strongest healing buff in the game.

Of course AST gets benefit from sects, they only have 1 emergency tool being ed on a 40 sec CD.
Synastry is a bit better now and Lightspeed does not provide THAT much help.
CO is a joke and CU still does not allow you to move or cast anything at all.

[Samsta]

Outburst? Where? I'm not cussing at anyone am i?

Constantly calling everyone kids and whiners when the forums is place for discussion, and negative criticism is not whining or crying. What does your constant "stop crying" bring to the discussion? Nothing, it is just undermining my points. And yeah I understood that you were not being serious, but presenting outrageous examples like that just tells me you are pretty mad.

[TatoRazzino]

Lightspeed is a very useful ability, in my opinion. I use it when I need to use a lot of off-GCD skills and I can't afford to delay my GCD. It's not a healing cooldown per se, but it allows mobility, MP conserving and prevents you from delaying a GCD.
For CO, it's fine now with the lower cooldown; I can extend card for 2 more GCDs for my DPS to make use of them while increasing my MP refresh from LA; you just have to time everything. The stun is more situational, but still useful in fights like A3.
Finally, CU can be dropped in seconds now that the regen effect stays after the bubble is gone. This was the best AST buff, in my opinion.

[Shakesula]

Oh so you want WHM to be buffed? No?
So you want AST to go back being almost useless like they were? No?
Seriously....WHM is the best and strongest healer in the game, pure burst heals with the strongest healing CD and the strongest instant heals in the game they're not meant to bring "utility" they're meant to outheal every other class, stop crying.

I feel that your argument is weak and lacks proof of its claim. AST is now on par with almost everything the WHM has to offer. Graniteskin loss was something that was done before all the AST madness and i think you should admit that it should be brought back cupcake

[Muahbec]

Constantly calling everyone kids and whiners when the forums is place for discussion, and negative criticism is not whining or crying. What does your constant "stop crying" bring to the discussion? Nothing, it is just undermining my points. And yeah I understood that you were not being serious, but presenting outrageous examples like that just tells me you are pretty mad.

But that's what you guys are doing! When ASTs were asking for buffs they were called kids and whiners by WHMs and SCHs, but they actually needed som buffs.
WHM was awesome back then and it still is, there is no need for buffs or adjustments to them.
It seems that you are only reading the "stop crying" in my posts and ignoring the whole rest.

[Muahbec]

I feel that your argument is weak and lacks proof of its claim. AST is now on par with almost everything the WHM has to offer. Graniteskin loss was something that was done before all the AST madness and i think you should admit that it should be brought back cupcake

I've already said in another thread that this whole graniteskin stuff SE did was ridiculous, i also gave some ideas to make cleric stance a more "whm" spell and i also gave the idea of taking selene's aoe esuna and giving that to WHM since it has nothing to do with the SCH concept.
IF IT REALLY NEEDED.

Also, aren't you the one who started the thread saying that AST wasn't buffed enough? How do you excpect me to take you seriously?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

As a WHM myself, I apologize for any other WHM who stopped healing in dungeons to tell everyone how WHMs need to be special.

[TatoRazzino]

One thing they could do is give WHM a trait that increases their Accuracy when they use Cleric Stance and a damage-MP conversion. About Graniteskin, instead of giving it back, what about allowing WHMs to use Stoneskin II in combat with a potency decrease (5% shielding instead of 10%)?

[Samsta]

But that's what you guys are doing!

We guys? What is this group you are referring to, all whm and scholar players? I am not aware that I have been posting here during that time. Don't just lump me to some group that I am not part of.

[Muahbec]

We guys? What is this group you are referring to, all whm and scholar players? I am not aware that I have been posting here during that time. Don't just lump me to some group that I am not part of.

Oh now you're ignoring my entire post and focusing in the most simple part of it?
Mere interpretation, "you guys" = most of the WHM players in these forums (and you became a part of them when you started this thread and made it clear that you were not bothered until AST got their buffs) actually, mostly WHMs since there are like.... 2 SCH players unhappy with the AST changes.
But it seems like there is no use continuing this, i'm out, say what you want, in the end WHM will aways be the best healer in this game