I really dislike what they have done to white mage

[J-Dax]

having a better burst available every now and then does not mean they outheal other healers. Once you use bene you are left with assize and tetra for 5 mins.

Again you are only reinforcing the idea that WHM is no longer better in every healing respect. There are differences in playstyles and capabilities, we tried it with the other healers being massively more powerful it didn't work.

[Samsta]

Again you are only reinforcing the idea that WHM is no longer better in every healing respect. There are differences in playstyles and capabilities, we tried it with the other healers being massively more powerful it didn't work.

But shouldn't whm be better in almost every healing respect since they don't have any utility anymore? being a little better in burst healing does not make a class unique and right now playing it feels dull. Gonna stick with astro until they change things.

[Muahbec]

But shouldn't whm be better in almost every healing respect since they don't have any utility anymore? being a little better in burst healing does not make a class unique and right now playing it feels dull. Gonna stick with astro until they change things.

WHM is not meat to bring utility.
WHM is meant to bring the strongest PURE BURST HEALS even the dev team mentioned this.
I have WHM friends and they are pretty happy with their job, they're not mad at the AST buffs, and don't even want to switch to AST.
Again, crying over nothing.

[Samsta]

WHM is not meat to bring utility.
WHM is meant to bring the strongest PURE BURST HEALS even the dev team mentioned this.
I have WHM friends and they are pretty happy with their job, they're not mad at the AST buffs, and don't even want to switch to AST.
Again, crying over nothing.

It is funny you are the one calling us mad and crying when you are the one losing your shit in every thread here. I am trying to keep the discussion civil, but you are the one who complains about crying and have these outburts, like where did I say anything about

Your own version of the LB3 on a 30 seconds CD?

Calm down man.

Again, if we want to talk about buffs, astro has synastry, whm has divine seal, which is better is debatable and situational I would assume, other is 20% buff lasting 20s and also has the healing sharing on a 90s cd, other is 30% buff lasting 15s on a 60s cd. PotM counterpart would be lightspeed, although lightspeed does not lower cgd , it makes spells that have 3s cast time (like aspected helios) to be almost instacast and also has mp management and the opportunity to move while healing. I find it hard to see how whm completely owns everyone in burst healing. And you should not forget that the sects also give you passive buff, making your every normal healing spell actually more potent than whm ones when in nocturnal stance. 5% speed buff does not hurt either.

[Muahbec]

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Sure it gets on my nerves, i'm tired of seeing a job who already have everything to shine like crazy asking for more.

The "lb3 on a 30s CD" was an irony in case you haven't understood
Btw divine seal is a 30% buff not a 20% buff, again, the strongest healing buff in the game.

Of course AST gets benefit from sects, they only have 1 emergency tool being ed on a 40 sec CD.
Synastry is a bit better now and Lightspeed does not provide THAT much help.
CO is a joke and CU still does not allow you to move or cast anything at all.

[Samsta]

Outburst? Where? I'm not cussing at anyone am i?

Constantly calling everyone kids and whiners when the forums is place for discussion, and negative criticism is not whining or crying. What does your constant "stop crying" bring to the discussion? Nothing, it is just undermining my points. And yeah I understood that you were not being serious, but presenting outrageous examples like that just tells me you are pretty mad.

[Muahbec]

Constantly calling everyone kids and whiners when the forums is place for discussion, and negative criticism is not whining or crying. What does your constant "stop crying" bring to the discussion? Nothing, it is just undermining my points. And yeah I understood that you were not being serious, but presenting outrageous examples like that just tells me you are pretty mad.

But that's what you guys are doing! When ASTs were asking for buffs they were called kids and whiners by WHMs and SCHs, but they actually needed som buffs.
WHM was awesome back then and it still is, there is no need for buffs or adjustments to them.
It seems that you are only reading the "stop crying" in my posts and ignoring the whole rest.

[Eudyptes]

Constantly calling everyone kids and whiners when the forums is place for discussion, and negative criticism is not whining or crying.

To be fair though it really is just a bunch of crying from whiners. Whm was untouched in 3.07. So where were these threads last week? Ast got buffed and still performs worse than a whm, but that's too much cause raisins. Whm is still the same class/role and perform the same exact functions as they did a week ago.

I mean seriously, think about your argument for a min. You're mad cause you can't give an 8% stronger pre fight buff in your OP.

Plus, I think most people stopped taking these as "serious discussion" about 50 threads back.

[J-Dax]

But shouldn't whm be better in almost every healing respect since they don't have any utility anymore? being a little better in burst healing does not make a class unique and right now playing it feels dull. Gonna stick with astro until they change things.

White Mage should not be better in every healing respect. WHM is better at burst, and raw healing all the way around as well as having better mana management, that is WHM utility. In exchange for being almost as good at healing AST gets RNG buffs that is AST utility.
As far as it feeling dull I agree, its super safe super boring straight up healing class. Could they add some flavor probably. Is it needed, not really.