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  1. #21
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    Muahbec's Avatar
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
    having a better burst available every now and then does not mean they outheal other healers. Once you use bene you are left with assize and tetra for 5 mins.
    Assize, Tetra, Asylum (yes it DOES count), Divine seal, Presence of the mind, a 150 pot regen that can be buffed by DS (stronger than AST asp.ben) < all CDs increase your healing output by some pretty good amounts.
    What else do you want?
    Your own version of the LB3 on a 30 seconds CD?
    What the?
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
    But shouldn't whm be better in almost every healing respect since they don't have any utility anymore? being a little better in burst healing does not make a class unique and right now playing it feels dull. Gonna stick with astro until they change things.
    WHM is not meat to bring utility.
    WHM is meant to bring the strongest PURE BURST HEALS even the dev team mentioned this.
    I have WHM friends and they are pretty happy with their job, they're not mad at the AST buffs, and don't even want to switch to AST.
    Again, crying over nothing.
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  3. #23
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    Amael Yuki
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    WHM is not meat to bring utility.
    WHM is meant to bring the strongest PURE BURST HEALS even the dev team mentioned this.
    I have WHM friends and they are pretty happy with their job, they're not mad at the AST buffs, and don't even want to switch to AST.
    Again, crying over nothing.
    It is funny you are the one calling us mad and crying when you are the one losing your shit in every thread here. I am trying to keep the discussion civil, but you are the one who complains about crying and have these outburts, like where did I say anything about
    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    Your own version of the LB3 on a 30 seconds CD?
    Calm down man.

    Again, if we want to talk about buffs, astro has synastry, whm has divine seal, which is better is debatable and situational I would assume, other is 20% buff lasting 20s and also has the healing sharing on a 90s cd, other is 30% buff lasting 15s on a 60s cd. PotM counterpart would be lightspeed, although lightspeed does not lower cgd , it makes spells that have 3s cast time (like aspected helios) to be almost instacast and also has mp management and the opportunity to move while healing. I find it hard to see how whm completely owns everyone in burst healing. And you should not forget that the sects also give you passive buff, making your every normal healing spell actually more potent than whm ones when in nocturnal stance. 5% speed buff does not hurt either.
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    Last edited by Samsta; 08-30-2015 at 08:45 PM.

  4. #24
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    Blair Waldorf
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The main difference between Synastry and Divine Seal is the fact that the latter can be used more often and in a more free way than the former. If your use Synastry as a simple healing cooldown whenever you need a big heal, you'll lose the ability to split your heals when needed (A1S is a very nice example). Doing split healing is not always good or necessary, in my opinion, this is why, from a strict healing perspective, Divine Seal is better.
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  5. #25
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    Jace Dax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
    But shouldn't whm be better in almost every healing respect since they don't have any utility anymore? being a little better in burst healing does not make a class unique and right now playing it feels dull. Gonna stick with astro until they change things.
    White Mage should not be better in every healing respect. WHM is better at burst, and raw healing all the way around as well as having better mana management, that is WHM utility. In exchange for being almost as good at healing AST gets RNG buffs that is AST utility.
    As far as it feeling dull I agree, its super safe super boring straight up healing class. Could they add some flavor probably. Is it needed, not really.
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  6. #26
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Just gonna copy pasta what I posted and buried in the White Mage "identity" thread:

    Disclaimer : Below is my personal opinion as a WHM player:
    WHM's specialty is the ridiculous amount of heals it can bring.
    Due to the above fact, WHM's specialty is that it has the "easiest" ability to shoulder over 90% healing responsibilities of a team.

    As ironic as this sounds, a WHM's full potential can only be realized the less his co-healer is healing. If your co-healer is not comfortable with DPSing, you're better off switching over to AST/SCH, as you will not require the full healing capabilities of a WHM, and might as well enjoy the utilities a SCH/AST brings.
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  7. #27
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    Straight healing classes will always be boring, in my opinion, but lots of people like them. I used to main SCH and I changed to WHM in 2.X simply because I wasn't into DPSing and healing at the same time; I'd rather just heal than DPS. AST was a dream come true to me, because I've always liked support classes. Maybe you should change your main, since your dislike what you're supposed to do as a WHM and I doubt they'll change this concept; they didn't in FF XI, even when they added other healing jobs.
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  8. #28
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    Amael Yuki
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    The main difference between Synastry and Divine Seal is the fact that the latter can be used more often and in a more free way than the former. If your use Synastry as a simple healing cooldown whenever you need a big heal, you'll lose the ability to split your heals when needed (A1S is a very nice example). Doing split healing is not always good or necessary, in my opinion, this is why, from a strict healing perspective, Divine Seal is better.
    yeah, I agree that in raw healing it is a better ability, however you can also use synastry in that regard, just throw it to a tank and you have your 20% buff. Like I said it is situational.
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  9. #29
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    Amael Yuki
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    Straight healing classes will always be boring, in my opinion, but lots of people like them. I used to main SCH and I changed to WHM in 2.X simply because I wasn't into DPSing and healing at the same time; I'd rather just heal than DPS. AST was a dream come true to me, because I've always liked support classes. Maybe you should change your main, since your dislike what you're supposed to do as a WHM and I doubt they'll change this concept; they didn't in FF XI, even when they added other healing jobs.
    Yeah I changed to astro when I started playing again, however I was little unsure whether I really wanted to change to ast or should I just stay as a whm. Now it is pretty clear that I will use astro after these changes.
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  10. #30
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    Lady Rewind
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 61


    So many of these threads

    WHM was amazing a week ago! It's still the same, amazing position

    WHM is the most powerful healer of the three. It simply has the best healing CDs in game and whilst the new AST CDs are good, they aren't as extensive as WHMs
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