Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[Azurymber]

Clearly you want people to walk more than they do (at a time when many people actually want to be able to teleport more than they can now with the 100 Anima restriction). What you want can be achieved without making any changes whatsoever. That's really the point I'm trying to make. If you're not having fun exploring the world more slowly it's because you choose not to. You don't have to force anyone else into it.

by your logic over the last few pages:
you're basically arguing if people want to just instant transport everywhere we should let them, and others who want to experience the game can walk. you're saying its a choice....

So continuing along that logic, that choice is the best way for a game to be....

Lets give people the -CHOICE- to get whatever gear they want. People who want to play the game can raid for it, but lets just give everyone the ability to choose any gear.

Lets give people the -CHOICE- to choose their level. Why should I have to mindlessly grind my crafts all day for hours? I should have a level up button.

see where im going with this?

You say walking is a chore, but grinding crafts is WAY more of a repetitive chore than walking is. Same with soloing the same mobs over and over and over for hours.

You either have a game, which requires people to invest time
or you have a game where people -choose- what to do (ex. cheat mode always on)

How can you logically argue for a middleground?

[AmyRae]

by your logic over the last few pages:
you're basically arguing if people want to just instant transport everywhere we should let them, and others who want to experience the game can walk. you're saying its a choice....

So continuing along that logic, that choice is the best way for a game to be....

Lets give people the -CHOICE- to get whatever gear they want. People who want to play the game can raid for it, but lets just give everyone the ability to choose any gear.

Lets give people the -CHOICE- to choose their level. Why should I have to mindlessly grind my crafts all day for hours? I should have a level up button.

see where im going with this?

Yeah, you're distracting from the issue by making it seem more complicated than it is.

The issue is simply one of enjoying the journey. You would like to enjoy it, and I'm telling you there's absolutely nothing stopping you.

If you don't like teleporting, then don't. There's nothing standing in your way from moving around as slowly as you like. What does it matter to you how fast anyone else travels?

Your enjoyment shouldn't come from impeding others.

[Azurymber]

Yeah, you're distracting from the issue by making it seem more complicated than it is.

The issue is simply one of enjoying the journey. You would like to enjoy it, and I'm telling you there's absolutely nothing stopping you.

If you don't like teleporting, then don't. There's nothing standing in your way from moving around as slowly as you like. What does it matter to you how fast anyone else travels?

Your enjoyment shouldn't come from impeding others.

again i can make the same argument about levelling. Why should you care if i auto-level? Its not impeding your game play? why should you care if i get all the best gear in the game instantly?

The reason i care is because it ruins the whole feel of the game. It also lessens the chance that they will ever generate content based on the airship and will just leave it empty to please the -few- people who will ride it once. It also hurts the game in general. Instant travel ruins the sense of adventure that FFXI had. And this game isn't competitive enough to lose that.

[DNO]

again i can make the same argument about levelling. Why should you care if i auto-level? Its not impeding your game play? why should you care if i get all the best gear in the game instantly?

The reason i care is because it ruins the whole feel of the game. It also lessens the chance that they will ever generate content based on the airship and will just leave it empty to please the -few- people who will ride it once. It also hurts the game in general. Instant travel ruins the sense of adventure that FFXI had. And this game isn't competitive enough to lose that.

if you like ff11. go play that. this is not ff11 and we are gonna have faster means of travel. thats a fact. get over it. and as your thread states most people do not want to walk and thats not fun.

You must understand what keeps people playing is fun (WoW) not immersion (FF11) (WoW 10 million subs FF11 500k subs? if that)

[Azurymber]

if you like ff11. go play that. this is not ff11 and we are gonna have faster means of travel. thats a fact. get over it. and as your thread states most people do not want to walk and thats not fun.

You must understand what keeps people playing is fun (WoW) not immersion (FF11) (WoW 10 million subs FF11 500k subs? if that)

ff14 has only 20,000ish registered to these boards.... so uhhh
Clearly what you think is fun has fallen flat on its face in fail.

Copying the guy who has experience and the best product isn't going to work when you can't make a product that comes close. FFXIV's only solution is to become unique and have distinctive features. As a STORY BASED RPG FRANCHISE you would think story and immersion would be an obvious pick Seriously, this is final fantasy... what FF have you played where you warp around?

[DNO]

ff14 has only 20,000ish registered to these boards.... so uhhh
Clearly what you think is fun has fallen flat on its face in fail.

Copying the guy who has experience and the best product isn't going to work when you can't make a product that comes close. FFXIV's only solution is to become unique and have distinctive features. As a STORY BASED RPG FRANCHISE you would think story and immersion would be an obvious pick Seriously, this is final fantasy... what FF have you played where you warp around?

Wow really? REALLY?
You are gonna blame f14 subs on the fact that ONE YEAR after a failed launch and horrid reviews that SE finally puts in a faster means to travel via airship??

On to the second horrid point you made.
Wow again really!? You would rather SE copy idea from ff11 which never got 1 million people to sub for any long period of time then to copy WoW which has had 10 million subs + for 5 years now? REALLY? (personally i played ff11 for 6 years over wow so i do like ff11 better but i want a huge population and ff11 never had that. So i understand that things like 2 hour walking to get to camp is just not fun for everyone.)

O and FF11 has tele/warps everywhere BTW.

[DNO]

Yeah, you're distracting from the issue by making it seem more complicated than it is.

The issue is simply one of enjoying the journey. You would like to enjoy it, and I'm telling you there's absolutely nothing stopping you.

If you don't like teleporting, then don't. There's nothing standing in your way from moving around as slowly as you like. What does it matter to you how fast anyone else travels?

Your enjoyment shouldn't come from impeding others.

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