Crushing Dreams Faster

[andreopalomino]

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To be honest about the joke, took me a while... lol

I know SE solved a gatherer issue, which is fine, but that's why I'm posting here, in the DoH forum. The solution did not change the scenario for crafters, mats will be expensive cause offer will be minimal compared to the demand. Solution to the gatherer's problem does not exclude a solution to crafters, different than what you say, they CAN please both. If prices are reasonable, people would buy the mats, but at 100-200K for Ooid (and the likes), just a few will drop gil on these mats, and if mats don't sell, people will not gather more, and offer will be minimal, which will hold most of the crafters. My point: for what reason hold mats so tightly?

[andreopalomino]

So even at absolute best possible results what's the highest potential number obtainable now? 8?

What I read on the gathering forums is that people are getting more or less the same amount of items, 2 or 3 per favor.

[PirateCat]

So even at absolute best possible results what's the highest potential number obtainable now? 8?

Theoretically you could have a concealed node pop after every regular node, so it depends on how quickly you can gather. I was generally averaging around 40 nodes per 15 minute favor, so take a third of that and factor in more time spent gathering from the concealed nodes themselves and you'd be looking at something in the ballpark of 10-12.

[Ossom]

You guys want it made easier for you? That's not gonna happen. That's like me crying about AS3 or AS4 being too hard.

They said they were gonna make it more "Accessible to casual players" who don't have enough time to do it 11 hours a week and thats what they did, now it only takes 3 hours and 45 minutes. That's much much much better.

[Yumi_umi]

You guys want it made easier for you? That's not gonna happen. That's like me crying about AS3 or AS4 being too hard.

They said they were gonna make it more "Accessible to casual players" who don't have enough time to do it 11 hours a week and thats what they did, now it only takes 3 hours and 45 minutes. That's much much much better.

Yup lol, its really enjoyable now tht u don't have to commit 15 mins x5.
I can gather while waiting for pvp qeue etc cuz 4:59 duration is great.
You just have to be more efficient in gathering the favors now so no more zzzz or slacking or gathering emph nodes lol.
Also if u get 0 in 5 mins its way better than getting 0 in 15 mins.

[andreopalomino]

You guys want it made easier for you? That's not gonna happen. That's like me crying about AS3 or AS4 being too hard.

They said they were gonna make it more "Accessible to casual players" who don't have enough time to do it 11 hours a week and thats what they did, now it only takes 3 hours and 45 minutes. That's much much much better.

That's totally different from you crying about AS3 or AS4, cause you can actually do it. It's not too hard to differentiate actually: you can wipe as much as you want on AS3, they don't add difficulty by imposing a limit of times you can play, or making you grind mobs to a random "ticket" drop to enter. What they are doing with crafting is just cheap design, cause the difficulty of the task is not in the task itself. Besides, how's crafting accessible to casual players?

[Ossom]

That's totally different from you crying about AS3 or AS4, cause you can actually do it. It's not too hard to differentiate actually: you can wipe as much as you want on AS3, they don't add difficulty by imposing a limit of times you can play, or making you grind mobs to a random "ticket" drop to enter. What they are doing with crafting is just cheap design, cause the difficulty of the task is not in the task itself. Besides, how's crafting accessible to casual players?

All I'm seeing is you complain about not wanting to do a core mechanic of a game to get to the stuff behind it. You could say the same thing about unspoiled nodes, but we've had those since 2.0

"You mean we gotta wait until a certain time of day to get one item from this node? It's so scarce."

Dude the patch came out today and I've already seen at least a half a dozen people this morning doing favors who I haven't seen doing it before. Their patch worked. Crafting has always been accessible to casual players, the 2 star crafts were not, now they are.

You are right, it was never the difficulty level, it was the time consumption and they fixed that.

[seorin]

The building is on fire and SE handed us a glass of water.

[Joronas]

The best comparison between crafting and raiding:

Raiding doesn't have to grind 20 untradeable dungeon minion drops to unlock 1 attempt at an alexander boss. With specific minions for specific bosses.

I've done favors, old and new. And you know what I realized? It's still a bad system, it's just faster now. It's still streaky as hell. I had 1 good streak, I had 3 bad streaks. Bad -- 3 favors, 4 items TOTAL.

In no way is crafting accessible to the casual. Either millions of gil worth of mats, or red scrip level gatherers with all the folklore tomes for mining and botany AND most if not all classes maxed.

Specialist is irrelevant -- the exact same problem, worse, because you've been told you're "special" so you think you should be able to do it.

[Ossom]

That comparison is so bad.

It look the first group 687 pulls to kill AS3. I've raided up to AS3 and I'll tell you 2 star crafting is sooo much easier and sooo much faster.

Guys, they aren't gonna make it easier for you. They made it more accessible, but you still gotta get up and do something if you want the materials.