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    GabrielK's Avatar
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    Vyndel Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Aureus View Post
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    How about you can only play 3 dow/dom to their maximum potential, all the rest up to level 59 only ? It makes just about as much sense to me in FFXIV.
    If a player is willing to put in the effort to level something, to quest for achieving something, why lock him out of it ?
    Oh, no, wait, they're not locking him out of it, they're simply locking it behind leveling an ALT, stupid in a mmo such as this, that intrinsically encourages 1 character per account model.

    And my main problem is, I love this character, I've been playing it since 2010, I have no intention of leveling an alt, and I imagine there are more like me.

    Oh well, they seem hell bent on not really allowing all crafting classes on the same character, not really anyway.
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    Last edited by GabrielK; 08-23-2015 at 03:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielK View Post
    How about you can only play 3 dow/dom to their maximum potential, all the rest up to level 59 only ? It makes just about as much sense to me in FFXIV.
    If a player is willing to put in the effort to level something, to quest for achieving something, why lock him out of it ?
    Oh, no, wait, they're not locking him out of it, they're simply locking it behind leveling an ALT, stupid in a mmo such as this, that intrinsically encourages 1 character per account model.
    This argument doesn't work, because you are limited by how "strong" your job can be through esoterics and weekly loot lockouts. So technically, ya the "max" potential of a DOW/DOM is limited based on the limitations on the type of gear you can get. You have to choose which job you want to gear with the top IL, so honestly, why shouldn't crafters/gatherers have a similar concept? Until they actually showcase the recipes, all people are doing is throwing pitchforks and torches like an angry mob. Just wait it out, see how they pull it off and honestly if it's a problem or you see an imbalance, then talk about it, suggest and explain why it's bad, but you can't do that now, until they actually implement it.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielK View Post
    How about you can only play 3 dow/dom to their maximum potential, all the rest up to level 59 only ? It makes just about as much sense to me in FFXIV.
    If a player is willing to put in the effort to level something, to quest for achieving something, why lock him out of it ?
    Every week you can only get 1 gear from Alex Savage and you have to choose for which job you want it.

    DoM and DoW have main jobs, DoH have now specialist classes.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-23-2015 at 03:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Every week you can only get 1 gear from alex Savage and you have to choose for which job you want it.
    Marginally similar.
    Because in time you can evolve all of them, in crafting they're supposedly exclusive to one another. At least if it's similar to how desynth works.
    If I tell you I disagree even with character level lockouts (in raids), while they should be class/job lockouts... you're going to shoot me ^^".
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    Last edited by GabrielK; 08-23-2015 at 03:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielK View Post
    Marginally similar.
    Because in time you can evolve all of them, in crafting they're supposedly exclusive to one another. At least if it's similar to how desynth works.
    Every week you can farm 450 red crafter scripts. A soul of the crafter cost 480 red crafter scripts. That mean if someone cap his red scripts every week, beginning with the 2nd week he can change one of his specializations every week.

    And no, it don't work like desynthese, because spezialisations don't have own levels and changing don't cost your crafter levels.

    Yes, it is maybe not comparable to Alex Savage, but still comparable to the Esotherics.

    If I tell you I disagree even with character level lockouts (in raids), while they should be class/job lockouts... you're going to shoot me ^^".
    Of course
    allowing a lv 40 player into Coil or even Alex and to lockout specific jobs from the raid would be very idiotic ^^
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-23-2015 at 04:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
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    And no, it don't work like desynthese, because spezialisations don't have own levels and changing don't cost your crafter levels.
    Thanks for the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    BS. If your answer to anything in this game is "make an alt" it is not an acceptable answer. This goes against the entire point of the armory system.
    Alts are always only optional and not neccessary.
    Just cap your red scripts every week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Alts are always only optional and not neccessary.
    Just cap your red scripts every week
    Yet said system rewards alts while under minds the armory system. And 2 weeks is a long time to switch specializations and your also assuming said person is done using red scripts to gear their crafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Of course allowing a lv 40 player into Coil or even Alex and to lockout specific jobs from the raid would be very idiotic ^^
    Why the hell would you allow a level 40 in Coil ? smh
    How the heck did you come to that conclusion baffles me, but that's a matter for another topic.

    Edit: Now I noticed you misunderstood what I was saying.. but come one, why would you suspect me of being that stupid ? :P I said "character level" as in not have a "character-level" lockout, restrict the character, not as in its actual level.. and restrict at "job-level" meaning each Job would have its own lockout. ><
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    Last edited by GabrielK; 08-23-2015 at 09:37 AM.

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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Every week you can only get 1 gear from Alex Savage and you have to choose for which job you want it.

    DoM and DoW have main jobs, DoH have now specialist classes.
    You must not be a crafter. The best gear in the game now for crafters is locked behind weekly limits (scrips) that are FAR more restrictive than the DoW/DoM lockouts.

    SE should immediately implement changes that allow you to only level up to 3 DoW / DoM jobs. We can't have people "specializing" in more than that, now, can we? Don't worry, you can still level all of the classes up to max level. You just won't be able to specialize! Too restricting? Don't worry, you can at any time throw away the soul crystal and level up another job. You just can't have more than 3 at any one time!

    Sound reasonable?
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    Last edited by Waeksyn; 08-23-2015 at 07:36 AM.

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