Enjoy Summoner before it gets nerfed...

[Fyce]

LB is LB. I'm not sure how you're gonna compare an LB to burst damage from skills.

How are you going to use a comparison of your burst to melee lb to defend the fact your class isn't overpowered?

You won't kill a Battle high enemy with the SMN burst, because a Battle high enemy will be under healer's care.
You need a stronger burst to do that, and the only answer is melee LB.

I'm sorry but since melee LB is relevant and is not as 'special' as you might think it is, saying that SMN has the best burst in PvP is just completly wrong.
Go on and say that I'm arguing sementics, but that won't change the fact that the SMN burst is not the strongest burst in PvP. SE making special PvP LB also support my point.

A melee LB is one dead body on the ground, 5 more points for your alliance, and 5 less to the enemy. SMN's burst is far from achieving this since people already started to hard counter (and focus) SMN in PvP, especially healers how know how to react.

[Stuff I never said]

This is completly moot as I never said that these drawbacks were exclusive to SMN. I was just saying that, no, the SMN burst is not a 100% "I kill what I target every time" combo.
That dude was way over-exagerating this burst to be instant, the strongest in PvP and without any risks or penalty.

He was basically saying that the SMN had some sort of godly power to kill everyone at will, when a single heal can completly shut them down in reality (which is the reason why I stopped playing SMN in SR).

[QCrimson]

when a single heal can completly shut them down

Same with the melee lb, it must not be that powerful then amirite ?

[RiceisNice]

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A single heal sets back any one shot combo/burst, including melee Lb if we're factoring damage shields and boosted hp. Realistically speaking, no burst can be a true one-shot if people are being babysat by healers. My (and possibly other) perspectives on it is that SMN's burst is relatively safe due to the instance compared to that of a melee's (even their LB), it has the lowest effective cooldown (anywhere from 1 minute just for aetherflow/tri disaster, to 3 minutes if we're factoring buffs). It's not so much that it's unstoppable or a guaranteed kill, but it's pretty damn ridiculous in perspective of what other classes can do and the risks/variables associated with them.

If we want to group melee LB to SMN burst, then ok. Melee objective does more damage than SMN's in a single hit. You're still not killing anyone whose being babysat by healers and damage shields without coordinated focus fire, omnitting all the risks and countermeasures to the fact that you still need to be in melee range and that it can be interrupted. Even if this is the case, outside of all those circumstance,s SMN burst is still one of the most potent ones behind melee LB with the least strings and risks attached to it, which is pretty damn important for dog fights in seal rock or pressuring/shooting down an individual within a group.