Eso Tome Cap

[Kydi]

The issue lies not with a cap but with the cost of gear in my opinion.

The way the cap is currently set, a player can only get a single accessory or belt with 1 week of farming. Anything significant requires 2+ weeks. For the hardcore players with multiple jobs this means that they are able to gear one, perhaps 2 jobs each cycle. For the casual player they may struggle to gear one (let's assume 15 week cycle with no removal of the limit part way, that's 6,750 tomes, or just enough to fully gear one job). This in turn could lead to frustration at not achieving something for that week (ultimately everyone is in it for something, and getting gear by farming is an achievement nonetheless).

Contrast what would happen if the gear were to halve in cost, but the cap remained. The players who cap weekly would be able to gear up in 6-7 weeks, which if they're also running savage doesn't seem unreasonable. The casual players would be comfortably able to gear a job even without capping every week. Alternatively set a sliding scale gradually reducing the cost of gear week by week. Hardcore players can gear early at cost, or wait and rely on beating content with lower gear. Casual players could gather at their own pace safe in the knowledge that it will definitely get easier within a defined time frame and it would benefit new players by reducing the upfront cost to catch up with the pack.

Each system could potentially reduce the alienation in missing cap for a week whilst still preventing content from being made irrelevant through gear.

[Colorful]

The issue lies not with a cap but with the cost of gear in my opinion.

Definitely agree, the Law Gear was priced much more reasonably. I can see why they priced Eso gear so high, and that's to keep people (like myself) who only play one class subscribed (although I'd stay subbed regardless) but when you have a system to allow people to play on every class with one character, they'd expect to be able to gear them at a more reasonable pace than 1 class every 3 or so months.

[Skotie]

Title aside I agree but then I have always thought I should be able to keep as many classes as I feel like leveling equally geared. Realistically I'll probably only keep my pld and nin geared but still I shouldn't need to make another character to keep both in the same ilvl due to bad game design desicions.

So long as my or anyone else's classes cannot gear up any faster than someone just playing one main class why can this not happen?!

[SDaemon]

Definitely agree, the Law Gear was priced much more reasonably. I can see why they priced Eso gear so high, and that's to keep people (like myself) who only play one class subscribed (although I'd stay subbed regardless) but when you have a system to allow people to play on every class with one character, they'd expect to be able to gear them at a more reasonable pace than 1 class every 3 or so months.

But to gear them all in the best gear possible? Having them all in range of i180 to i200+ is awesome! They don't all need to be in full max ilevel to make use of the job system.
At present you can have all jobs i180+. You can work on 1 job to be full i200+ if you want, another job could at the same time be full i190 now with another well on its way to it, while the rest are full i180 w/ i190 weapon.

[WingsOfAzrael]

i'd like it if they raised the cap to 500-600(600 is unlikely) but 3 weeks for a weapon? 6k estorics tomes for a whole set and its class limited capped at 450 a week

[Gralna]

i'd like it if they raised the cap to 500-600(600 is unlikely) but 3 weeks for a weapon? 6k estorics tomes for a whole set and its class limited capped at 450 a week

It use to be at 300, then 400, now 450... seems every time they raise the cap, people want it just a bit higher. Where will it end, even if weekly cap was removed, pretty sure someone would say the 2k overall cap was too low.

[Skotie]

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Right but if you wanted to run any serious content like savage no one wants to be in anything less than the best possible gear. That is what the problem is with the current system, no matter what you do your being forced to choose a main class instead of having the freedom to play any and as many classes/jobs as you choose to thier fullest potential. This wouldn\\'t be an issue to me if SE didn't present this false sense of freedom in the game and instead locked each character to one main DoW/DoM right from rhe start.

You can get around this of course by making multiple characters for each class you want to play but in a game where I can freely switch classes.... just why?

[silentwindfr]

the cap have only one function, keep people occuped while waiting for the next add of content.
i dunno for you, but i still remember a time where we had no content and while still playing game.... mostly for the encounter. but today the mmorpg is mostly a raiding game, if they don't have high level content, understand here raid, people are not interested. that why too we don't see new main activity get out. because now mmorpg = raid... it's sad when you think the genre was not this at the start. it's almost a devolution of what it was means. the goal of a mmorpg was encounter people while having fun, but look at the game and the community?

toxic like hell and have little fun into it. why this? because they need to release high level raid. but the trouble is... not everybody do raid, i was quite a big raider before... but since i have join FF14 i don't feel like doing it. why? because i found it bland and not that good actually. before insult me, it's my opinion, i know that some people enjoy this sort of content. but do it have offer new challenge soo far? not really actually most of the mechanic seen in the raid we had soo far (maybe exept cerberus) was already used by other game before. why that? because raiding is something that didn't really evolve with all this time. tank swaping, dps check, meteor mechanic and such are not new, if you have done raiding for very long, you don't find this extremely appealing.

that why a lot of big raider was poiting ff14 as boring... mostly because the game is good, but don't try to create something outside a story and a universe. they don't risk, everything they have done soo far are choice with the less risk involved. now is the question is, do they plan to take risk someday and offer us true new experience? offer us a new evolution of the genre? or simply try something new?

but i digress, the gating is only there for keep people not doing raid occuped... do it work? less and less, they really need to think at a way to keep player... having fun! by the way the only way they can make the cap more interesting is make it cumulative, if you miss one week, your cap will be the cap of 2 week, means 900, if you miss 2 week, you will have 1350...... like this if a player can't reach it, because he can't play it.... he don't feel left out.

[SDaemon]

Right but if you wanted to run any serious content like savage no one wants to be in anything less than the best possible gear. That is what the problem is with the current system, no matter what you do your being forced to choose a main class instead of having the freedom to play any and as many classes/jobs as you choose to thier fullest potential. This wouldn\\'t be an issue to me if SE didn't present this false sense of freedom in the game and instead locked each character to one main DoW/DoM right from rhe start.

You can get around this of course by making multiple characters for each class you want to play but in a game where I can freely switch classes.... just why?

If you are pushing serious content you are going to be in a static where you have a specific role/job.

[Skotie]

If you are pushing serious content you are going to be in a static where you have a specific role/job.

So if I'm raiding as a tank on one character this prevents me raiding as a dps on another character? No it doesn't. So why should raiding as a tank prevent me from raiding as a dps on the same character?