Eso Tome Cap

[ElHeggunte]

Low dropchances on the good gears

Yeah, was going to say. Older games got by on terribly low drop chances, long respawns, and sometimes long lockouts too. FFXI, which is a game people love to compare to this one, is a perfect example of a game that utilized all three at varying points of its lifespan.

Of course this is me speaking as someone who quit in the middle of Wings of the Goddess so things may have changed , but I'm guessing that if it did it didn't change much.

[Ibi]

My question is.. how the hell did MMOs survive before Blizzard (or whoever they 'borrowed' the idea of token exchanges for gear and caps on them) first implemented the 'feature'? Surely there were only as handful of loyal subscribers to keep the games limping along.

Because we never used to have this shit.. and *GASP* we still had MMOs to play.

How did they survive? With smaller player bases, fewer updates, and noticeably less content.

Though there were (and still are) some people who love endless RNG (which was what you got before currency/token systems like this existed), and will happily grind away doing the same event over and over for a chance at maybe perhaps seeing something they can use, most people either don't enjoy that from the start or tire of it fairly quickly.

How well do you think 2.x would have done if there were no tomes and all the dungeon and Coil instances only had a random chance to actually drop equipment?

FFXI, which is a game people love to compare to this one, is a perfect example of a game that utilized all three at varying points of its lifespan.

Of course this is me speaking as someone who quit in the middle of Wings of the Goddess so things may have changed , but I'm guessing that if it did it didn't change much.

Even FFXI added currencies that you could collect over time (limited by some sort of time gating) as early as ToAU, with Assault Points (and ID tags being the time gate), so that you had events you could do that would guarantee you gear if you put the time in.

But, people already unsubscribe after the first month of an update because lack of variety in things to do >_> Atm, you can literally finish everything for the week on reset day and have absolutely nothing to do until the next week.

If you feel like there's absolutely nothing to do in the game except capping tomes, then sure.

But if there's nothing else in the game that interests you, it's possible this simply isn't the game for you.

[Alistaire]

I love it all the comments are making fun of the title insted of talking about the topic.

To be fair that's the more noteworthy thing about the topic.

[MaethusXion]

Oh this thread again...

this post: relevance -10

[Moonleg]

So you want people to feel that they need to run 13 Expert roulettes per day in order to be playing optimally?

Yeah no.

[AckersFury]

So you want people to feel that they need to run 13 Expert roulettes per day in order to be playing optimally?

Yeah no.

noope, no one is forcing anybody to do anything if you happy doing 1 roulette per day for you 1 job that's fine, but there's people who want to do more, right now we're being forced to play at your pace rather than our own, its about choice, and right now, we don't have one

[Moonleg]

noope, no one is forcing anybody to do anything if you happy doing 1 roulette per day for you 1 job that's fine, but there's people who want to do more, right now we're being forced to play at your pace rather than our own, its about choice, and right now, we don't have one

So you want people to feel that they need to run 13 Expert roulettes per day in order to be playing optimally?

[AckersFury]

So you want people to feel that they need to run 13 Expert roulettes per day in order to be playing optimally?

why would they? it's there if you want to do it, its about choice, i know it feels good to see your tome stats say 450/450 at the end of the week, its fulfilling, but i can see that number after 2 days, then wonder what the hell do i do now, well i shouldn't be rushing...i'm not rushing i just enjoy the game, i play it alot, sure i can logoff and play other games, but i want to play this game! we're paying a monthly sub for this damn game for gods sake

[Neophyte]

why would they? it's there if you want to do it, its about choice, i know it feels good to see your tome stats say 450/450 at the end of the week, its fulfilling, but i can see that number after 2 days, then wonder what the hell do i do now, well i shouldn't be rushing...i'm not rushing i just enjoy the game, i play it alot, sure i can logoff and play other games, but i want to play this game! we're paying a monthly sub for this damn game for gods sake

Ok, so you enjoy playing the game so much you're doing ~10 runs Tue/Wed (so that others might think you're 'rushing'), but you don't know 'what the hell to do' if you're on cap and ask yourself why you're still paying subs, if you can't get more tomes/week. Aha. Doesn't sounds like that much fun to me. ^^

[SakuraMidori]

noope, no one is forcing anybody to do anything if you happy doing 1 roulette per day for you 1 job that's fine, but there's people who want to do more, right now we're being forced to play at your pace rather than our own, its about choice, and right now, we don't have one

No it's just SE is keeping you in check. You see if they let you burn past everything with 0 caps well your just going to get bored you pros will just max everything out and return here to say i'm bored make new game content.

but there's people who want to do more, right now we're being forced to play at your pace

Your playing at SE pace