[Idea] Race: Allagan

[RiceisNice]

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Yuguri says hi. And even then, Au'ras being playable at the beginning of 2.0 (new adventuers are either legacy players thrown forward in time, or returning/arriving to Eozrea from a previous journey) makes a hell lot more sense than what you're trying to suggest (with Cid somehow uploading a virus to an allagan construct when you don't even interact with Cid until half way into the storyline, let alone in the beginning, on a creation that has long existed and probably gone into deep sleep before Cid was ever born, let alone even get in contact due to the events of 1.0 transitioning into 2.0 and his amnesia). The matter of fact is, iand is even mentioned in game on multiple occasions as well as the binding coils, that the allagans are in a far far more advanced state of technology than even the garleans can ever hope to achieve.

The burden of proof is on you to to make a case of lalafells or miqo'tes being created by the allagans, because you're the one that's trying to make a point that an allagan-synthesized race is feasible from from a story point perspective (unless you want to give them exclusive MSQ) from the ground up.

I think that.. is the opposite. If the Dragons had such a bad time against the Allagan constructs why would ALL OF THEIR DIALOGUE be about the Elezens and how they betrayed them. WHY would they be throwing all of their forces at Ishguard trying to wipe them out instead of wiping out the remaining Allagan things. It was obvious and it is obvious the Dragons know where they are, and it wouldn't be hard for Dragons to ask their multiple sources to create something to gain access to that Island, in fact there are creatures on it. That shield wasn't unstoppable.

The Dragons seem to hate Ishguard and Elezen more then anything. Why else would they throw almost all of their hoards at them?

Remember that we have different factions of dragons. Nidhogg specifically has excess rancor toward Ishgard (not elezens, don't mix these two together) for their betrayal. Bahamut has been driven to insanity by the Allagans and their inhumane treatment and imprisonment of the dragons of Meryicida. The Allagans are objectively immoral people with their experiments and ultimately causing the Fourth Umbral Era, a point that even Y'shtola agrees on during your quests in Ayz Llya. Even if there were any true allagans that were somehow alive, I'd doubt anyone would want anything to do with their schemes, let alone work with them.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Yuguri says hi. And even then, Au'ras being playable at the beginning of 2.0 (new adventuers are either legacy players thrown forward in time, or returning/arriving to Eozrea from a previous journey) makes a hell lot more sense than what you're trying to suggest (with Cid somehow uploading a virus to an allagan construct when you don't even interact with Cid until half way into the storyline, let alone in the beginning, on a creation that has long existed and probably gone into deep sleep before Cid was ever born, let alone even get in contact due to the events of 1.0 transitioning into 2.0 and his amnesia). The matter of fact is, iand is even mentioned in game on multiple occasions as well as the binding coils, that the allagans are in a far far more advanced state of technology than even the garleans can ever hope to achieve.

The burden of proof is on you to to make a case of lalafells or miqo'tes being created by the allagans, because you're the one that's trying to make a point that an allagan-synthesized race is feasible from from a story point perspective (unless you want to give them exclusive MSQ) from the ground up.



Remember that we have different factions of dragons. Nidhogg specifically has excess rancor toward Ishgard (not elezens, don't mix these two together) for their betrayal. Bahamut has been driven to insanity by the Allagans and their inhumane treatment and imprisonment of the dragons of Meryicida. The Allagans are objectively immoral people with their experiments and ultimately causing the Fourth Umbral Era, a point that even Y'shtola agrees on during your quests in Ayz Llya. Even if there were any true allagans that were somehow alive, I'd doubt anyone would want anything to do with their schemes, let alone work with them.

You and everyone seems so caught up in little things. The Allagans were way too advanced not to attempt to create something so beautiful and magnificent. They could be more, so much more and its not even hard. You and others just don't ever look at the big picture. There is so much this potential has and what it could have if you just open your mind to it.

Sure, it seemed silly but it was just one of many ideas you could come up with.

And to repeat myself, for this race to even work, they'd need to be given special snowflake treatment, which is unbalanced compared to other races. The race you are trying to bring to life is currently Padjal status (since it wouldn't make sense for hundreds/thousands to appear without warning, whereas it makes sense for the current six races because... they're born).

News: If you already didn't notice the entire 2.0 story was us being special snowflakes already.

(I do agree with you a bit regarding the Au Ra and how they're... there from the start of the story, yet they don't appear until more than halfway into the story... But I don't think the 'solution' to the current plot holes with the new race is to promote another race that would have even bigger plot holes or potential plot holes.)

Indeed, I don't see anything different with this. You would realize the real story when you unlocked the race. Only people who unlocked it would know to begin with.

But eh.. I really DO not think that is Padjal status. White Magic and White Mages themselves are godly in their power. Its not like these guys will be able to pull people back.

Seriously though. These guys are Handmaidens and Maids, they are strong beings but. They are not godly by any means.

[Nestama]

News: If you already didn't notice the entire 2.0 story was us being special snowflakes already.

You know exactly what I mean. Like Padjal, what you want isn't "born" (I'm sure we don't even have the Echo until some point in our characters lives). It is made. For hundreds/thousands to suddenly show up at {starting city} does not make sense and would make the Allag empire appear as incredibly incompetent with their creations.

Did the primal bahamut atack the allagans once he scape? ehh NO, he didnt care or notice the difference between llagans and orther eorzean people.

He was trapped inside of Dalamud for 5000 years, forced to stay summoned by his tortured thralls. Also, the Allagan empire used to be in Eorzea (Crystal Tower and Azyz Lla prove this).

[Nektulos-Tuor]

You know exactly what I mean. Like Padjal, what you want isn't "born" (I'm sure we don't even have the Echo until some point in our characters lives). It is made. For hundreds/thousands to suddenly show up at {starting city} does not make sense and would make the Allag empire appear as incredibly incompetent with their creations.

Like the Au Ra? That didn't make sense, it happened. Guess we are both confuzzled here.

If they were not, how did they fail?

These beings are born. Depending on your views of born. I consider born the creation of new life.

They did not just appear out of nothing, they were MADE.