[Idea] Race: Allagan

[Samcaesar]

Biggest difference between Elezen and an Allagan construct is Elezen weren't made to kill Dragons and plenty of them don't give a darn. An Allagan construct would be built without any notions of free will with the focus of upholding the empire in mind, there's no way the Allagan's would construct something that didn't have the same "Use dragons as batteries" idealogy that the Allagan's themselves had.

[Skullmaker]

Just for fun, let's say the Allagans ran into the problem of their people being "tempered" by the primals, but figured out a way to deal with it. Unfortunately, this involved sucking the victim's soul out of the body and "filtering" it through unaspected crystals, before storing it in a "core" that could be inserted into an artificial body. It could even have been a voluntary process, undergone to allow them to resist tempering while attempting to deal with the primals. The devices to accomplish this would
likely still exist, somewhere amongst the secrets of Azys Lla or another of the Allagan's research facilities still undiscovered.
I should think having your soul trapped in a crystal sphere might even allow Hydaelyn to speak with you quite easilly.

[RiceisNice]

Just for fun, let's say the Allagans ran into the problem of their people being "tempered" by the primals...

They're Allagans. They don't get tempered. They use primals for their own purposes. Just look at Bahamut Prime.

Cid and the Gang can make a virus that overwrites it? There are literally infinite possibilities why. They could even have a way to hide themselves and masquerade as people. Some could of even escaped in the world earlier. Your character is pretty .. unique in his aspect to help anyone. He does not seem like a regular person.

You underestimate how over complicated the Allagans are. You don't even meet Cid until half way into the MSQ, let alone at the beginning of the game. The feasibility of him coming up wit ha virus to override na Allagan Creation is slim to none given the advancement of Allagan technology being leagues above the Garleans (whom are already pretty damn advanced relative to what we normally see). You're literally grasping at straws at this point and coming up with plot holes to justify it as a playable race :l.

[Frederick22]

SE can do whatever they want to, it just need to have a good answer.

[Nestama]

SE can do whatever they want to, it just need to have a good answer.

And so far a good answer hasn't been made (one that doesn't tread all over lore and story). Why are they in the three starting cities? How do they have the Echo? Why do they have free will (if they were servants, then the technicians would have made sure to remove their free will and emotions permanently)?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

And so far a good answer hasn't been made (one that doesn't tread all over lore and story). Why are they in the three starting cities? How do they have the Echo? Why do they have free will (if they were servants, then the technicians would have made sure to remove their free will and emotions permanently)?

Just for fun, let's say the Allagans ran into the problem of their people being "tempered" by the primals, but figured out a way to deal with it. Unfortunately, this involved sucking the victim's soul out of the body and "filtering" it through unaspected crystals, before storing it in a "core" that could be inserted into an artificial body. It could even have been a voluntary process, undergone to allow them to resist tempering while attempting to deal with the primals. The devices to accomplish this would
likely still exist, somewhere amongst the secrets of Azys Lla or another of the Allagan's research facilities still undiscovered.
I should think having your soul trapped in a crystal sphere might even allow Hydaelyn to speak with you quite easilly.

Cid and the Gang can make a virus that overwrites it? There are literally infinite possibilities why. They could even have a way to hide themselves and masquerade as people. Some could of even escaped in the world earlier. Your character is pretty .. unique in his aspect to help anyone. He does not seem like a regular person.

[Nestama]

And Cid doesn't become available until level 40ish. It's also ancient Allagan tech from 5000ish years ago, so he would take weeks-years trying to figure out how to make you human again (and that's making things unbalanced for the races. Why does this one race get special treatment, while the others are all treated exactly the same?). There's still the question on why they're showing up in the three starting cities (again, technicians would make sure to remove all free will and emotions from them -think Cybermen from Doctor Who. It also wouldn't make sense for hundreds of them to suddenly appear. This is pretty much crossing into the "why Padjal can never be a thing," as it wouldn't make sense).

If they woke up in the Binding Coils, then they would go back to doing their predetermined task of torturing the dragons so they would keep summoning Bahamut (or be destroyed by the experiments. Being level 1 and all that). If Azyz Lla, then back to research, keeping the place "clean" or get destroyed by the escaped experiments... and they wouldn't be able to leave because of that shield (taking malfunctions into consideration).

An idea is great and all, but you need to think about how to make it work without making it the special snowflake race that gets exclusive MSQ treatment. Also think about it, would it really make sense for (unrealistic example, but I'm going for it) thousands of Allag robots to just show up out of nowhere in the starting cities? Honestly, a playable Beastman race would make more sense at this point.

[Nestama]

And to repeat myself, for this race to even work, they'd need to be given special snowflake treatment, which is unbalanced compared to other races. The race you are trying to bring to life is currently Padjal status (since it wouldn't make sense for hundreds/thousands to appear without warning, whereas it makes sense for the current six races because... they're born).

[Frederick22]

Did the primal bahamut atack the allagans once he scape? ehh NO, he didnt care or notice the difference between llagans and orther eorzean people.

My point that dragons hate man or better said, they dont trust men, beacause of what happened with the allagans and Ishgard( that was a total remind for them ) Dragons kills withouth care, they dont care if you are Ishgard, allag or non of them.
If you guys did MSQ you would notice that the man and dragon started to war just when man showed up on cortheas before Shiva. Beacuse of all what man did, they dont trust them and even hate them. when I was on dravania, the dragons did care if I was an sihardian or not? no they tried to kill me anyway. "As long as it fits in the story it makes sense"


Thats my point, dragons man, I mean all spoken races.

and speaking of this possible new race, I dont care what is gonna be, if the manage to solve with the Auras, they will solve it again

[Nestama]

Au Ra have existed (by being born) long before Shiva was born. They have been to Eorzea in the past (Zantetsuken is rumoured to have been brought to Eorzea from the eastern lands, by an Auri warrior). The Auri people most likely avoided going to Eorzea for a time due to the Calamity and Garlean threat. With Gaius dead, it was safe for them to travel the seas and open market again (though that's to explain the after. For the before, you could just be that one guy from the village who wanted to go on an adventure).
Padjal are few because they are Hyurs blessed by the Shroud.
Your robots supposedly require living human specimens to be assimilated into a robotic body. I just can't see this working, as it would imply the Allagan people who designed them built them with major flaws. Where would they even come from, anyway (I'm getting to that point where I'm repeating myself and it is really aggravating me)?