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  1. #31
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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parawill View Post
    In my opinion though, Scholar's only real weakness is sustained & on-demand (non CD restricted) AoE healing,...
    The point is that you usually don't need and don't want to spam medica/helios (if you do, you'll run OOM very fast, especially with AST). Even as a WHM, you want to use Medica II and let your HoTs do the rest. Emergency tactics and Indomitability have 30 seconds CD, it's not so much. You can have Whispering Dawn HoT for 1/3 of the fight if you really need it. I'm not going to say SCH is on the same level as AST or WHM in sustained AoE healing, but it is very good in that as well. Of course, the fact that both Whispering Dawn and Indomitability are MP free is a big plus. Now, you generally want to use Whispering Dawn with Rouse (both have 60 seconds CD). The total healing potency is 980 (around 1200 if you consider Fey Illumination that you can use once every two Whispering D.). Diurnal Aspected Helios total potency is 640 (meh), Medica II is 700 total potency (910 if Divine Seal is on). So you see, the difference is not so big as one might believe. Uhmm...now that I think about it, maybe it's better than AST even in this...now I'm sad.
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  2. #32
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Dissipation does need a buff. Turn it into a sacrifice enkindle. Sac Selene and gain a lightspeed buff for a 15 seconds disappation duration instead of 30. Give Eos something like a regen added to physick or anything that fits with eos really. Large mp regen idc. XD
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  3. #33
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Dissipation does need a buff. Turn it into a sacrifice enkindle. Sac Selene and gain a lightspeed buff for a 15 seconds disappation duration instead of 30. Give Eos something like a regen added to physick or anything that fits with eos really. Large mp regen idc. XD
    SCH does not need buffs. Dissapation is fine. Why would we need something this grossly overpowered while our AST brothers are suffering is beyond me.
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  4. #34
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    I think that all it would take to make Dissipation an attractive skill would be if it didn't incur such a huge cost to get your fairy back after it's over.

    If it had an additional effect after the +20% healing boost wore off, something like "The cast times on Summon and Summon II are reduced by four seconds, and the MP cost is reduced by 50%", I think that would be enough to make it an attractive skill.

    Having to burn a Swiftcast, and losing 1768 MP (often in a situation where the shit has just hit the fan and you may need to both cast Resurrection on someone and lose a bunch of MP spamming heals) feels needlessly punitive - especially when the main effect of the skill is already not just a straight buff, but rather is trading one of your most efficient and effective tools (the fairy) for greater control over a big spike of your own personal healing.
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  5. #35
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    Emarial Artayu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
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    one problem, it may be mp free but it costs an aetherflow stack
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  6. #36
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    *lonely ast waving his arms around*
    "can we please get anything like this? i give cookies if we do"
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    SCH does not need buffs. Dissapation is fine. Why would we need something this grossly overpowered while our AST brothers are suffering is beyond me.
    "Dissipation is fine." Yeah once every 3 minutes. 3 Lustrates at 4.5k = 13.5k (unaffected by heal potency bonus) vs 10 embraces at 1.35k (low because of fairy Nerf progression) as well as a swiftcast and 1800 mp. That convenience trade off... doesn't seem to be... erm... that convenient? ._.

    A less extravagant solution would be to increase healing potency to 30%, reduce duration to 15 seconds.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 08-07-2015 at 12:15 PM.

  8. #38
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    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
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    I think I've already said that, but I'm actually fine with Dissipation. It's not something I'll use every day, but it's a good (albeit niche as hell) CD in 2 situations:
    - initial DPS burst
    - whenever I'll switch fairies mid-fight (which is something I used to do in 3 out of 4 of Final Coil encounters and something I'm doing in A2S)

    In the first situation, you'll never run out of mana because your aetherflow will be used for Energy Drain. In the second situation, you're using the MP regardless so it's just 3 stacks for free.

    The only criticism I have is the healing bonus granted by Dissipation not affecting the Healing skills it fuels. It synergizes very poorly with itself.

    It's definitely not an "oh crap!" CD (and it's frankly terrible if it has been designed to be one) but something that needs to be planned.
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  9. #39
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WingsOfAzrael View Post
    one problem, it may be mp free but it costs an aetherflow stack
    Not a big deal. AF stacks every 60 second + dissipation if you need them.

    Also, as Kerrigen mentioned, Dissipation will be extremely convenient when a SCH has to switch fairy. It's basically 3 free AF stacks since you'll be sacrificing her anyway.
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    Last edited by Lastelli; 08-07-2015 at 06:54 PM.

  10. #40
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    "Dissipation is fine." Yeah once every 3 minutes. 3 Lustrates at 4.5k = 13.5k (unaffected by heal potency bonus) vs 10 embraces at 1.35k (low because of fairy Nerf progression) as well as a swiftcast and 1800 mp. That convenience trade off... doesn't seem to be... erm... that convenient? ._.

    A less extravagant solution would be to increase healing potency to 30%, reduce duration to 15 seconds.
    Comparing 3 lustrates to 10 embraces is comedic, one can be used in half a second, the other can take up to 25. I think I've given up on trying to explain that dissapation is an emergency cooldown for extreme situations, people keep trying to twist it into something it isn't.
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