The Duty Finder has been adjusted so that players who have been vote-dismissed are no

[Krokov]

As another poster has said the patch note was revised They are not immediately available to rejoin the same party, not Any party

[Gilraen]

Still not enough, I think. It happens too often where if a run goes bad or doesn't go 'according to plan' that someone attempts a /voteabandon. If it should fail they then complain and whine to be kicked or, barring that, just flat disconnects hoping to get 'votekick'd. I don't like giving these pricks what they want, which is to get out of what they perceive as a 'bad group' even if more than half the time they are the ones making the group bad. I feel /voekick should have the same cooldown as the first /leave.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Fantastic so now there will be even more incentive for people to abuse the vote-dismiss feature. But I guess be sure to report those that do because this is against the tos.

Abuse it how? Everyone has a right to choose who they play with. Only time I've seen it an issue is when there's a kick at the final boss over something arbitrary when the person kicked was complying with everything the group asked.

[Niwashi]

Everyone has a right to choose who they play with.

Yes, and that's what the "Leave" option is for. You can leave any group you don't want to play with. It doesn't give you the right to kick other people out. Kicking someone because you don't like how they play is Vote-Kick abuse. You can kick them if they're trolling and harassing you or others in the group, or if they're AFK, but not because you'd rather play with someone else.

[Asmodai]

People like you is what makes DF horrid in the first place. Give the guy a break. English might not be his first language.

What makes DF horrid is the massive amount of lazy people who want something for nothing and to not be called out on it. OMGERD DONT KIK MEH FOR DOING NOTHING I PAY MY 15 DOLLERZ A MONTH!

Then they go on the forums and claim to be "abused" when they are in fact the ones abusing everyone else by being useless sacks of wet mice.

[DeadRiser]

First week of Heavensward I was kicked from two different parties for being a "bad healer" and defending myself when the tank pulled all mobs lined up to the next boss.

Though immediately getting in back in was the cherry on top. Especially the third time when instead of being nice and moving on, they'd rather vote abandon before the last boss.

[Adire]

Yes, and that's what the "Leave" option is for. You can leave any group you don't want to play with. It doesn't give you the right to kick other people out. Kicking someone because you don't like how they play is Vote-Kick abuse. You can kick them if they're trolling and harassing you or others in the group, or if they're AFK, but not because you'd rather play with someone else.

Kicking people for "having a different playstyle" is actually a legitimate kick reason. I can find the GM quote for you if you want proof.

[Nadirah]

Kicking people for "having a different playstyle" is actually a legitimate kick reason. I can find the GM quote for you if you want proof.

Until they add it to the list of reasons, it's not.

Because it sure as hell isn't harassment. Sitting and doing absolutely *nothing*, sure, but doing crap all for DPS or healing sure as hell isn't.

[Adire]

Until they add it to the list of reasons, it's not.

Because it sure as hell isn't harassment. Sitting and doing absolutely *nothing*, sure, but doing crap all for DPS or healing sure as hell isn't.

GMs disagree with you.



Source thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

[Nadirah]

So the asshole cannot ruin your group but you are fine with him ruining another instead?

Also this thread is absolutely baffling.
I swear the community has some kind of weird paranoia where everyone is out to get them, be it trolling or telling them they are bad in some way.

Because I think out of all of the vote kicks I've personally started, and had happen in my groups, I think ONE of them was actually an asshole?

The rest were afk for half the run, or disconnected and didn't come back after 5 minutes.

I bitch to my FC about the shit player I got and deal with it. There's *very* little that will prompt a vote kick from me that doesn't involve inactivity or disconnection.

GMs disagree with you.

Then they can add it to the list.

if it's not harassment and you're reporting it as such, it's abuse of the tool. ONE GM doesn't mean "change in policy".