The Duty Finder has been adjusted so that players who have been vote-dismissed are no

[Assirra]

No, we wanted the guy getting kicked not readded to *our* group, not *any* group.

So the asshole cannot ruin your group but you are fine with him ruining another instead?

Also this thread is absolutely baffling.
I swear the community has some kind of weird paranoia where everyone is out to get them, be it trolling or telling them they are bad in some way.

[Lemuria]

So the asshole cannot ruin your group but you are fine with him ruining another instead?

Also this thread is absolutely baffling.
I swear the community has some kind of weird paranoia where everyone is out to get them, be it trolling or telling them they are bad in some way.

Obviously you've never experienced vote-kick abuse. Unfortunately, it happens more often than many would like to admit. In the last week I actually turned down two vote-kicks on Expert roulette because they thought the DPS weren't up to scratch. Both times, the DPS were in ilvl 160 ish gear, clearly doing their best to earn new gear by getting law tomes and both times it was the tank that initiated the vote.

That said, no one really wants to rejoin a party that they were kicked from anyway. They're obviously not worth your time any more than you're worth theirs.

[Krokov]

As another poster has said the patch note was revised They are not immediately available to rejoin the same party, not Any party

[Nadirah]

So the asshole cannot ruin your group but you are fine with him ruining another instead?

Also this thread is absolutely baffling.
I swear the community has some kind of weird paranoia where everyone is out to get them, be it trolling or telling them they are bad in some way.

Because I think out of all of the vote kicks I've personally started, and had happen in my groups, I think ONE of them was actually an asshole?

The rest were afk for half the run, or disconnected and didn't come back after 5 minutes.

I bitch to my FC about the shit player I got and deal with it. There's *very* little that will prompt a vote kick from me that doesn't involve inactivity or disconnection.

GMs disagree with you.

Then they can add it to the list.

if it's not harassment and you're reporting it as such, it's abuse of the tool. ONE GM doesn't mean "change in policy".

[Adire]

Then they can add it to the list.

if it's not harassment and you're reporting it as such, it's abuse of the tool. ONE GM doesn't mean "change in policy".

They can, and they probably should. However, here's a picture of another GM response:



More proof for you. It is GM policy. You can be kicked "justly" for just about anything.

Edit: Oh and there's this. It just confirms again that you can kick for other reasons than those listed. I'm glad that the reasons aren't restricted to the 4 on the list, but an "Other" option should at least be added.

Greetings!

To begin, I have removed several posts commenting negatively about the company or the service itself, as well as a side discussion about the use of spell checking. Those suggestions have been heard, but take away from the concerns in this thread, which is a criticism of policy and confusion resulting from a message sent by a GM.

I have escalated several of the concerns with the messaging to the appropriate group for review and ways to improve their messaging to prevent confusion like this.

However, there is one topic in this thread that seems to be an underlying point of contention: reasons for dismissal that are not strictly "AFK", "Offline", "Harassment", or "Cheating". I would like to address this.

The response from the GM touched on this, although it was missed due to the focus on the first part of that sentence. The reasons for dismissal are not all encompassing, which means that there may be valid reasons for dismissal outside of those four examples. Good examples of this that have been provided in this thread are the refusal to fulfill one's job function. Because of this, it is possible that the reasons provided for dismissal may be found to be accurate if they are used against you. As well, the feelings one may have about the reasons may differ from the feelings of those who voted to dismiss. For example, cultural differences in language may have one person using language they find fairly benign while another person takes great offense to it.

Because of these subjective discrepancies, the final decision on if a violation of the use of the vote dismiss feature is left to a GM after an investigation. In general, abuse of the vote dismiss feature is considered to be a grief tactics violation, which falls under section 3.2 in the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement. However, it is only after a GM investigation that it can be determined to be a violation of the rules. If you feel that the vote dismiss feature has been abused, please do report it to the GMs through the Help Desk in game, and we will investigate.

LGM Enkrateia